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   From: bill.sloman@ieee.org   
      
   On 24/02/2026 7:08 am, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   > Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 23/02/2026 5:38 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > [-]   
   >>> I mostly see Spinoza as an echo of Duns Scotus,   
   >>> then though the "men are natural enemies" I don't get,   
   >>> sort of like that Calvinism is disagreeable.   
   >>   
   >> Jonathon Israel got very interested in Spinoza and points out that a lot   
   >> of Roman Catholic theologians got very interested in Spinoza and spent a   
   >> century or so trying to prove him wrong. I don't think that Duns Scotus   
   >> generated anything like as much interest.   
   >>   
   >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Israel   
   >   
   > You might also like Steven Nadler on Spinoza,   
   > and why he was so controversial, then and still.   
   > "A Book Forged In Hell".   
   > Theologians of various kinds were not merely 'interested'.   
   >   
   > [-]   
   >> Greek philosophy was great at getting hold of the wrong end of the stick.   
   >   
   > Ah, you have the right end?   
      
   I'm not a philosopher. How could I possibly know?   
      
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   Bill Sloman, Sydney   
      
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