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   Bill Sloman to J. J. Lodder   
   Re: energy and mass   
   25 Feb 26 00:09:54   
   
   XPost: sci.electronics.design   
   From: bill.sloman@ieee.org   
      
   On 24/02/2026 10:40 pm, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   > Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 24/02/2026 7:08 am, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   >>> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 23/02/2026 10:28 pm, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   >>>>> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   > [-]   
   >>>>>> Climate change denial is remarkably foolish.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I saw a proposal to paint a blue line on all buildings in seaside towns   
   >>>>> at for example + 5 meter above present mean sea level.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The Greenland ice sheet   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_ice_sheet   
   >>>>   
   >>>> would be good for 7.4 meters of sea if it all slid off into the sea at   
   >>>> once, and similar events happened at the end of the most recent ice age.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The West Antarctic ice sheet   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Antarctic_Ice_Sheet   
   >>>>   
   >>>> will probably deliver 3.3 meters of sea level rise rather sooner.   
   >>>   
   >>> Indeed, it could but it is very unlikely that it will.   
   >>   
   >> That depends on how fast we cut our carbon emissions.   
   >>   
   >>>> Again it could happen quite quickly, and there would be no chance of   
   >>>> stopping it if the ice started moving fast and friction heating started   
   >>>> melting the bottom layers of the ice sheet.   
   >>>   
   >>> Inventing catastrophes is easy.   
   >>> Why not let the Yellowstone super-volcano explode first?   
   >>   
   >> The catastrophes aren't invented.   
   >   
   > -The- are not.   
   > Your particular one, of a sudden, massive sea level rise is.   
   > (by glaciologists in bad need of more funding).   
      
   For sudden, read a couple of hundred years, and look at the end of the   
   last ice age, and the fact that the Gulf Stream got turned off for   
   about 1300 years at the end of the last ice - the Younger Dryas.   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas   
      
   That set in quite rapidly in some places - Greenland cooled off over a   
   period of three years.   
      
   The changes in climate would have been quite dramatic enough and quite   
   fast enough to rate as catastrophic - business as usual would not have   
   been an option.   
   >> There was a massive sea level rise at   
   >> the end of the last ice age (and every one before it) and the current   
   >> distribution of continents that makes it possible for Antarctica and   
   >> Greenland to be covered with deep ice sheets isn't one that shows up all   
   >> that often in geological history.   
   >   
   > Those living at the time will hardly have noticed, if at all.   
      
   Think again, or think a bit harder.   
      
   > The catastrophes that really happened, the Storegga slides for example,   
   > had little to do with sea level rise.   
      
   The flooding of the Black Sea, which happened at much the same time, did   
   have more to do with sea level rise. It seems to have been spread over a   
   couple of hundred years, and people would definitely have noticed.   
      
   --   
   Bill Sloman, Sydney   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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