XPost: sci.electronics.design
From: bill.sloman@ieee.org
On 25/02/2026 6:34 am, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Bill Sloman wrote:
>
>> On 25/02/2026 1:15 am, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/02/2026 10:40 pm, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24/02/2026 7:08 am, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23/02/2026 5:38 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>> Greek philosophy was great at getting hold of the wrong end of the
>>>>>>>> stick.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, you have the right end?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not a philosopher. How could I possibly know?
>>>>>
>>>>> Then how could you know that 'the Greek philosophers' (whoever)
>>>>> usually got the wrong end?
>>>>
>>>> I've read quite a bit of the history, and historians do enjoy pointing
>>>> it out. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and Greek philosophy occurred
>>>> long enough ago to have been exposed to quite a lot of it.
>>>
>>> It is a grab bag.
>>> You can find lots of wrong and right ends in there,
>>> depending on your prejudices about right and wrong,
>>
>> Science has the advantage that it looks for concensus, and can end up
>> with a pretty robust idea of right and wrong.
>
> But Greek philosophy -was- what they had for science.
> (and for a lot of other things beside that).
There have been quite a few centuries worth of refinements since then.
Peer reviewed international journals do a much better - if still
imperfect - job of error correction and detection than public debates
between the smartest rich guys in town. You had to be pretty well off to
take the time out to do it.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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