XPost: sci.physics.relativity   
   From: chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/5/2024 4:04 PM, x wrote:   
   > On 12/5/24 09:18, The Starmaker wrote:   
   >> The Starmaker wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> George Hammond wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:   
   >>>>   >   
   >>>>> Is there an afterlife?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> [Hammond]   
   >>>> YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown   
   >>>> WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to   
   >>>> the animals "growth curve deficit".   
   >>>>      And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached   
   >>>> 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !   
   >>>>   >   
   >>>>> And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> [Hammond]   
   >>>> YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an   
   >>>> AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...   
   >>>> which by simple observation seems to include all of them!   
   >>>>      And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,   
   >>>> since they do not have a brain.   
   >>>>   >   
   >>>>> Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have   
   >>>>> consciousness?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> [Hammond]   
   >>>> All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal   
   >>>> on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average   
   >>>> World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)   
   >>>> ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"   
   >>>> when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to   
   >>>> achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> [Hammond]   
   >>>> Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   >   
   >>>>> Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms   
   >>>>> from   
   >>>>> everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a   
   >>>>> living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,   
   >>>>> until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding   
   >>>>> atoms   
   >>>>> to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate   
   >>>>> accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very   
   >>>>> complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,   
   >>>>> just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the   
   >>>>> time of death?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows   
   >>>>> until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be   
   >>>>> registered.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I think that the same thing happens to every human.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of   
   >>>>> dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.   
   >>>>   >   
   >>>> [Hammond}   
   >>>> Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of   
   >>>> EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !   
   >>>>      I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife   
   >>>> before we   
   >>>> try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"   
   >>>>   >   
   >>>> Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !   
   >>>>   >   
   >>>> Best regards, George   
   >>>   
   >>> The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life.   
   >>>   
   >>> Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension   
   >>> you can fly.   
   >>>   
   >>> Can yous people not learn from Nature?   
   >>>   
   >>> A caterpillar crawls on the ground...   
   >>>   
   >>> then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and   
   >>> it flys ...you call it...butterfly.   
   >>>   
   >>> There  is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin????   
   >>   
   >> i know yous people have been brainwashed...like forever,   
   >>   
   >> BUT YOUS DON'T UNDERSTAND!   
   >>   
   >> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> THERE IS NO BEFORELIFE!   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> It...NowLife.   
   >>   
   >> NextLife. Next-to-Life.   
   >>   
   >> for example..   
   >>   
   >> people say   
   >> "You look like your Mother!"   
   >>   
   >> or   
   >> "You look like your Father!"   
   >>   
   >> or   
   >> "You look like your Mother and your Father!!"   
   >>   
   >> YOU ARE your mother and your father!   
   >>   
   >> You are a mutant. (for a lack of a better word)   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Some mothers hate their son because he looks like her ex.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> It IS her x.   
   >>   
   >> just a smaller version...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.   
   >   
   > Yes you will die and it is feasible that your   
   > brain will be eaten by maggots like billions of   
   > other people before you, however some are cooked   
   > into black carbon that is burned and your bones   
   > will be crushed into a calcium powder using possibly   
   > over 10 gallons of propane and bone grinders.  Most   
   > embalming does not even suppress maggots.   
      
   What about the people who died right around a nuclear blast? Poor souls.   
      
      
   >   
   > Like others here you are not interested in creating   
   > any sort of afterlife for either you or anyone else.   
   >   
   > Einstein was incinerated mostly back in the 1950s,   
   > with some of his brain being preserved against his   
   > wishes.  Carl Sagan has already died of Leukemia, and   
   > who knows how far away the SETI aliens might be if they   
   > exist.  Billions of people are still incessantly corralled   
   > to their death in a manner similar to time immemorial,   
   > which in the physical world appears to be a fate worse   
   > than hell, visited upon everyone no matter how good or   
   > bad they have been, against which there is no repeal.   
   >   
   > If only people did not want sex, then they would not   
   > curse children with something called life, leading   
   > to pain and turmoil resulting in inevitable doom.   
   >   
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)