XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.math   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 4/6/25 8:45 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
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   Absolutely. It's the story of my adult life, but not in the cave men's   
   shoes, but in Aristotle's (Plato's really).   
      
   For the past 45 years, since I came to the United States, I've been   
   observing this in a nation that's raised on cartoons, TV, Hollywood, and   
   an as stupid a Church.   
      
   Every fucking day of my life for the past 45 years. From first hours I   
   stepped into these people, till this very hour today, I, and the world,   
   have been experiencing this fact in you people.   
      
   There were a lot of cro-magnons inside Greece in Plato's time. He   
   must've experienced this by observing them. So he built his model of it   
   as knowledge was available to him back then. It is outdated now.   
      
   He did notice that it was not a matter of education to change them. This   
   far is correct. But his mistake was to attribute the whole shortcoming   
   to education while cavemen were being raised.   
      
   That's a mistake by today's extent of knowledge. It is not totally a   
   matter of education. There are quite a large number of educated people   
   among the cro-magnons today. But they're as stupid in this matter as   
   those who aren't.   
      
   It is a matter of _species_. Cro-magnons aren't the best that humanity   
   has offered. They're not Modern Humans. They're from stocks of earlier   
   humans still in existence, about half Neanderthal in nature and half   
   Modern Human, and they were formed only from 45k years back to 25k years   
   back strictly by intercourse of Modern Humans with the Neanderthals   
   after ice age was over and paths to Europe opened up again, and never   
   changed since until recent mix up with Modern Humans when traveling   
   became easier for them and they spread from northern Europe to many   
   other spots around the world.   
      
   It's the species that does it, not "race" (which is really a bullshit   
   concept) or education while being raised as Plato thought.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)