XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.math   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 4/7/25 12:38 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   > On 4/6/25 8:45 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
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   >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave   
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   > Absolutely. It's the story of my adult life, but not in the cave men's   
   > shoes, but in Aristotle's (Plato's really).   
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   > For the past 45 years, since I came to the United States, I've been   
   > observing this in a nation that's raised on cartoons, TV, Hollywood, and   
   > an as stupid a Church.   
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   > Every fucking day of my life for the past 45 years. From first hours I   
   > stepped into these people, till this very hour today, I, and the world,   
   > have been experiencing this fact in you people.   
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   > There were a lot of cro-magnons inside Greece in Plato's time. He   
   > must've experienced this by observing them. So he built his model of it   
   > as knowledge was available to him back then. It is outdated now.   
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   > He did notice that it was not a matter of education to change them. This   
   > far is correct. But his mistake was to attribute the whole shortcoming   
   > to education while cavemen were being raised.   
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   > That's a mistake by today's extent of knowledge. It is not totally a   
   > matter of education. There are quite a large number of educated people   
   > among the cro-magnons today. But they're as stupid in this matter as   
   > those who aren't.   
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   > It is a matter of _species_. Cro-magnons aren't the best that humanity   
   > has offered. They're not Modern Humans. They're from stocks of earlier   
   > humans still in existence, about half Neanderthal in nature and half   
   > Modern Human, and they were formed only from 45k years back to 25k years   
   > back strictly by intercourse of Modern Humans with the Neanderthals   
   > after ice age was over and paths to Europe opened up again, and never   
   > changed since until recent mix up with Modern Humans when traveling   
   > became easier for them and they spread from northern Europe to many   
   > other spots around the world.   
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   > It's the species that does it, not "race" (which is really a bullshit   
   > concept) or education while being raised as Plato thought.   
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   Cro-magnons in Plato's times were utterly uneducated compared to Modern   
   Humans in Egypt, Iran, India, and China, so it was easy for Plato to   
   think of this matter as the result of a lack of education in their   
   upbringing.   
      
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