XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.math   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 4/12/25 4:09 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   > On 4/12/25 12:35 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
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   >> The "negotiations" after some formal crap were postponed till next   
   >> weekend.   
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   >> I suspect they just told each other what the subject of negotiations   
   >> should be, and gave each other one week to come up with an agreement   
   >> on that.   
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   >> Araghchi commented briefly with the reporters. No comments to the   
   >> reporters from Witkoff. Nobody can find him. He must be busy arguing   
   >> over this sensitive matter with the Loon in the House. And they've got   
   >> just one week now to blow the chance.   
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   >> Iran only allows discussing nuclear weapons (which for years has been   
   >> a non-issue), and Americans want to add free lobbying for Israel to   
   >> it. Good luck with that.   
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   >> The whole thing is driven by Israelis of course.   
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   >> And reality is, the war should come. One way or another Israelis and   
   >> other culprits will pay for mass murdering innocent people. And every   
   >> single Arab country is also involved in this coming war. Not a drop of   
   >> oil will pass Hormoz Strait. Because not a drop of oil will be pumped   
   >> out. And it will take about 30 years for Americans to at last pack and   
   >> leave the region. You've got some shit coming your way if you're shit!   
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   > Yep, my guess was correct. So far it's only a matter of what to talk   
   > about. Both sides also agreed not to drag their feet this time around.   
   > Iranians do not really have time for Americans' idiosyncrasies because   
   > it is absolutely useless talking to them, and Americans are only   
   > brokering for Israel in this, and Israel is in deep shit, and sinking   
   > lower every day. They smelled the coffee when Iran last month disagreed   
   > with Arabs about "two-state" solution. They want something done fast,   
   > and want to know how much they should pay for it.   
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   > Israelis, stupid as sin in anything above a matter of tribe, chose Trump   
   > of all the options to help them in this. So they've already fucked it   
   > up. Now they want war, and they will get it.   
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   > There's nothing Trump can give Iran. Removing sanctions? Too late, the   
   > world is distancing from Dollar and these sanctions will more and more   
   > lose their meaning. It won't make a difference for Iran one bit because   
   > Iran is NOT in USA's camp anymore. And will never be. There's no   
   > "carrots" that Trump has.   
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   > You're mass murdering people of the region. Who wants to talk to you? It   
   > will be war. Retribution at any cost. Ask Saddam, he'll explain it to   
   > you in detail.   
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   New development.   
      
   A lot of bullshit news have suddenly poured into different outlets about   
   what went on in Omman. No doubt Jewish-controlled media are making up   
   baloney using subject material irritating to Iranians and Americans, to   
   adversely affect both Iranian and American people's opinion of this new   
   channel of communication in Omman.   
      
   CNN, AP, WSJ, ... and you name it. They're all doing it.   
      
    From reliable news by Iranians, I read that there were only a total of   
   4 "round trips", so to speak, by Ommani foreign minister between Iran's   
   room and Americans' room which were separated by a large hall. And   
   communication was in written form and in the English language. I doubt   
   you could pack all that bullshit in the fake news this evening into just   
   four rounds of exchanged statements. It is just not possible :)   
      
   The use of fake news was in fact strongly warned by Iran's foreign   
   ministry's spokesperson earlier today as soon as he got out of the first   
   round of communications in Omman. He warned Iranians not to listen to   
   _any_ news outlet.   
      
   So this obviously points to a new development. Israelis are worried that   
   Trump might back stab them; that he might at some point put lobbying for   
   Israel aside to take care of Americans' more "Amerirican" matters.   
      
   Also, this shows enough of this may've already happened in that first   
   round to make Israelis nervous.   
      
   Israelis are worried. I would too if I was mass murdering women and   
   children every day.   
      
   No deal of course will be made without removing sanctions and the freeze   
   over Iranian assets around the world, and stopping all that threat   
   against Iran's business partners in oil and gas and just about any other   
   commodity. Therefore a deal, if it takes place, can make Iran greatly   
   speed up anything that's not discussed in these negotiations. Much, much   
   faster than how things sped up right after 2015 deal. In 2015, it took   
   Iran 3 years to get to a new level of production and design in defense   
   equipment. Anything before 2018 was considered junk in comparison. Now   
   the same type of jump can take just a few months.   
      
   I think this is what Israel fears. Israelis don't want a deal. They want   
   war. Netanyahu has no qualms in destroying Israelis for his own dick's   
   content. The guy is a lunatic Nazi. If Hitler dragged Germans' noses   
   down on the ground over cold mud, Netanyahu will do that too to the   
   Israelis. He wants war.   
      
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