XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.math   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 4/15/25 12:21 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > On 04/14/2025 09:21 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >> On 4/14/25 10:53 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>> On 4/14/25 10:33 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>> On 04/14/2025 08:09 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>> On 4/14/25 9:26 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 04/14/2025 06:51 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 4/14/25 5:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The Starmaker  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Where do you think The Constitution of the United States comes   
   >>>>>>>>>> from???   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> The Roman Empire! am i wrong here?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yes, you are, and off-topic too,   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Jan   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The Founding Fathers drew inspiration from the Roman Republic,   
   >>>>>>>> especially its emphasis on checks and balances, but adapted the   
   >>>>>>>> model   
   >>>>>>>> to create a unique system of government.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> U.S. Constitution is dated. Americans now get their "inspiration"   
   >>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>> Satan, not the Roman Republic.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Speak for yourself.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Pretty much whenever I see frothy post-bait like "the end of   
   >>>>>> the world is nigh" or "get used to it", either, it's like,   
   >>>>>> I don't believe either of you two and furthermore I think   
   >>>>>> it's mostly the result of a straw-man froth-farm meant to   
   >>>>>> desensitive like a meat tenderizer, and that it most certainly   
   >>>>>> does _not_ represent common sense and usual opinion.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I was talking to this guy the other day, we met and were   
   >>>>>> talking and he says "I'm 96 years old" and we were having   
   >>>>>> a genial conversation and talking about what a wonderful   
   >>>>>> world it was and better than alright then a bit about   
   >>>>>> the politics and he says "stupid bastards" then back   
   >>>>>> about seeing the world and having a nice day.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The Founding Fathers of America after Locke and Montesqieu   
   >>>>>> and Montaigne arrived at a bill of universal individual   
   >>>>>> rights, if though the universal bit took a while to get   
   >>>>>> fulfilled, vis-a-vis being Senators and Governors and such.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So, that's a _great_ and important and critical aspect,   
   >>>>>> and with what resulted the middle class, and a strong   
   >>>>>> and educated middle class which these days is sort of   
   >>>>>> fat and media-addicted, the Bill of Rights is a particularly   
   >>>>>> American invention and is widely modeled around the world   
   >>>>>> as what results human rights and these sorts things.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The Roman Republic was a particularly innovative form   
   >>>>>> of government itself, as after something like Polybius'   
   >>>>>> history of it, and for Strabo or for Marcus Aurelius,   
   >>>>>> then though that these days we've already done better.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Then as with regards to mechanical inference it's sort   
   >>>>>> of a thing as "well you can get born and have to keep   
   >>>>>> all your bodily functions functioning and get parented   
   >>>>>> until you reach the age of majority which is about 18 years,   
   >>>>>> during which time your spawners are responsible for any   
   >>>>>> your actions".   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Human years, ....   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So, anyways, you can talk about radicals of either ilk,   
   >>>>>> but usual nonagenarians think they're s.b.'s.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Such radicals are not natural friends of a prosperous middle class.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Hmm.. Good old days you might think. Not anymore! You people aren't   
   >>>>> the   
   >>>>> Americans who developed such thoughts.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And even they, the "founding fathers".. they sucked bad. As the dead   
   >>>>> American Natives. The live ones too, you know, the ones that one day   
   >>>>> will devour you.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Problem is your species. It is your species that's outdated.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Actually much of the Americas North and South is mestizo,   
   >>>> and lots of Indians-with-a-feather integrated, though it's   
   >>>> agreeable that the various cultures of the post-Deluvian   
   >>>> saw very different arrivals at organizations of peoples.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Of course the kool-aid is very palatable, or as with regards   
   >>>> to that ideally the egalitarian ideals beat other systems of   
   >>>> government, with regards to free-thinking and independent peoples,   
   >>>> what the majority would be.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So, you're welcome to that foul kool-aid, here we have good stuff.   
   >>>> Or, the right stuff, as it were.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Last time I really enjoyed Kool-aid I was 5 and in Tehran, not here in   
   >>> U.S. In some respects it saved me also, cause I was able to do what I   
   >>> wanted and not what my mother was incessantly telling me. She was   
   >>> thinking Kool-Aid is bad for me, especially how I   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Sorry my cat jumped on the keyboard and message was sent prematurely.   
   >>   
   >> ... especially how I consumed it. No water or anything, mind you. As   
   >> soon as I'd buy a packet (which meant as soon as I had 1 Toman in my   
   >> possession), I would pour the whole thing in my mouth and chew it to   
   >> extinction. It was heaven :)   
   >>   
   >> And I did it _every_ time I had one Toman (about $0.50 back then). And   
   >> this sometimes meand a few times a day! Especially in a month like this   
   >> (Farvardin is the first month of Iranian year and has a long period of   
   >> festivity in its beginning days). So my mother was worried and scolded   
   >> me each time she'd see my entire inner mouth colored red or blue or..   
   >>   
   >> The crime was impossible to hide.   
   >>   
   >> But guess what. It made me somewhat healthier than other kids who didn't   
   >> do that. The reason was the added vitamin C, without which there would   
   >> be no USA.   
   >>   
   >> We didn't eat much fruits in those early years of my life. For some   
   >> reason, by the time fruit would make it near where we lived in Tehran,   
   >> it was partially bruised and overripe. Neither of us in the family liked   
   >> things like that.   
   >>   
   >> So that vitamin C in Kool-Aid did wonders for me :)   
   >>   
   >> But the affair ended when soon we moved to an extreme north Tehran area   
   >> on the foot of the mountains. Gardens of fruit trees of several kinds   
   >> were everywhere, together with raspberry fields, mulberry trees   
   >> everywhere along narrow irrigation canals, pomegranates, strawberries,   
   >> apples, cherries, ...   
   >>   
   >> So I discovered fruits! Some free to pick, and some forbidden to pick   
   >> but.. they could never stop the kids. The fruits were available three   
   >> seasons of the year. Always fresh of course. Kool-Aid was history. I   
   >> actually never bought it again.   
   >>   
      
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