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   Physfitfreak to All   
   Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-)   
   19 Apr 25 13:59:31   
   
   XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.math   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   2nd round was over a few hours ago. Next round will be held on 26th of   
   this month, again a Saturday, after some of the technical issues will   
   get discussed (in Omman) I think almost right away from today.   
      
   An Iranian more independent and self-centered news outlet (in Telegram)   
   which does not necessarily obey any demands on them by Iran's   
   government, early on, towards the beginning of the talk disclosed that   
   Araghchi and his team had cancelled the talk minutes into its start, and   
   for about 15 minutes or so were preparing to leave the building (Ommani   
   embassy in Italy) and return to Iran.   
      
   This news piece was not touched on at the end of the 2nd rounds talks by   
   spokesperson of foreign ministry. No other Iranian sources of news also   
   touched on that, either because they didn't have the information, or   
   they followed ministry's directive in keeping it quiet. No news of it in   
   Western outlets that I could see either.   
      
   But it happened, yet somehow, 15 or 20 minutes after, the talks resumed,   
   and as Araghchi himself said at the end of the 2nd round, "It is going   
   forward". He didn't mention whether talks were "positive" like in the   
   1st round, or negative.   
      
   So one has to just make the best guess on exactly what happened.   
      
   I think Witkoff made a last hardest stance that he could, to save the   
   lobbying factor in the Americans side for Israel, and it didn't work. So   
   probably Trump was contacted right in those minutes and after some talks   
   he ordered to save a form of the negotiation that would work for his   
   political ends. So, matter of lobbying for Israel has either suffered   
   badly, or is nonexistent right now. The thing may've boiled down to a   
   sensible arrangement between Iran and the USA, which would definitely   
   make a positive political win for Trump as far as American internal as   
   well as international interests are concerned. Trump needs a political   
   victory, not a war.   
      
   Nothing else really is being said about this. There _were_ nothing else   
   to do than what's being done now, as facts determining the outcome are   
   pretty firm and unchangeable. Let me list them here.   
      
   1- In what American Nazis' actions in the region has created for the   
   region, the matter of enrichment of various fissile matter in Iran is   
   nobody's business but Iran's. It's 90 million people's lifeline, and it   
   will continue the life of its own exactly as it should and is needed.   
      
   2- Iran has never resisted a fair deal with USA, if the intentions are   
   there and they are lasting and real. Look at the deals Iran has with   
   Russia, that would give you the right clues.   
      
   3- Iran will respond to Israelis terrorist actions in the region, be it   
   outside or inside Iran's borders. Nothing in the world can stop it.   
      
   4- Iran _will_ respond to Israelis' mass murder of Palestinians. It will   
   come to Israelis in various different ways, and is impossible for them   
   to stop it.   
      
   5- The world can consider the region to be devoid of even one drop of   
   oil for them, very fast, extremely efficiently, within just hours. The   
   word "world" here includes all Arab and non Arab nations of the world.   
      
   6- AS far as "War" is concerned. It already started late in 1990s when   
   Nazis in USA said Iran cannot have nuclear weapons. That was a statement   
   of war, and it is in effect as you read this note. Nazis do fear nuclear   
   capabilities in their victims.   
      
   7. Iran is quite open in transferring nuclear technology to Arabs and   
   any other nation, any other country around the world that are suffering   
   by the hands of the Nazis. There is absolutely no other plan of action   
   to adopt, that would mean anything in dealing with those Nazis. As long   
   as Nazis are in existence anywhere in the world, nukes will be made by   
   more and more nations in the world. Nukes were _invented_ to kill Nazis   
   off. It is the only response that exists, in removing the problem of   
   Nazis in the world.   
      
      
   These facts aren’t even specific to Iran — they apply universally to any   
   nation or people. And they dictate the form, content, and outcome of any   
   discussion with the Nazis.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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