XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.math   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 4/21/25 2:52 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:   
   > On 4/21/2025 9:34 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >> On 4/21/25 2:11 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:   
   >>> On 4/21/2025 9:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>> On 4/21/25 1:25 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:   
   >>>>> On 4/21/2025 8:05 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 4/21/25 1:29 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 4/20/2025 9:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>  >> Werner Heisenberg said, "We have to remember that what we   
   >>>>>>> observe is not   
   >>>>>>>  >> nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of   
   >>>>>>> questioning."   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What we observe - is a claim. It's   
   >>>>>>> a text information. It submits our   
   >>>>>>> rules of text processing, nature   
   >>>>>>> "in itself"  has nothing to do with   
   >>>>>>> it and never had.   
   >>>>>>> And, yes - a theory teaches us how   
   >>>>>>> our observation should look like.   
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   >>>>>> "Text information" is nature in itself, Bozo.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No it is not. Without a trained by a culture   
   >>>>> human mind able to interprete it it's either   
   >>>>> a stream of meaningless sounds or a stream   
   >>>>> of meaningless characters, Bozo.   
   >>>>>   
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   >>>> "a stream of meaningless sounds" is nature in itself, Bozo.   
   >>>   
   >>> But a text isn't that.   
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   >>   
   >> Anything that is, is nature in itself, Bozo.   
   >   
   > No, Bozo.   
   > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/nature   
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   There is a difference between the English language and physics, Bozo.   
      
   Go back to the Kibbutz you came from and spade up the weeds. You're made   
   for that.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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