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   J. J. Lodder to David Canzi   
   Re: The Apollo moon landings   
   23 Jun 25 10:44:28   
   
   XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english   
   From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl   
      
   David Canzi  wrote:   
      
   > On 6/14/25 01:45, Bertitaylor wrote:   
   > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 10:42:45 +0000, Stefan Ram wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> David Canzi  wrote or quoted:   
   > >>> Did Einstein make relativity famous, or did relativity make   
   > >>> Einstein famous?   
   > >>   
   > >>   Einstein really hit the big time after that 1919 solar eclipse,   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Biggest science hoax ever that, using the refraction of the starlight   
   > > from the Sun's atmosphere to "prove" the extraordinary bullshit of   
   > > General Relativity.   
   >   
   > Has anybody calculated how much refraction by the Sun's atmosphere   
   > would bend a ray of star light, and was the result of that calculation   
   > close to the observed bending?   
      
   Yes, of course. Eddington and friends already did that.   
   The answer is that there is no way of explaining the bending of   
   starlight by refraction in the Sun's atmosphere.   
   The density is far too low for that. [1]   
      
   Apart from that, the matter is of historical interest only.   
   At todays accuracies bending of starlight is easily observed   
   all over the sky. (except for diametrically opposite of course)   
   So for example at 90 degrees away from the Sun,   
   for starlight that has never been closer to the Sun than the Earth.   
      
   Not unusual in science: what starts out as the highest science of the   
   utmost technical difficulty ends up a hundred years later   
   as a routinely applied engineering correction,   
   (with the Hipparcos and GAIA astrometric satellites for example)   
   Stellar positions are nowadays measured to -micro- arcseconds,   
   with parallaxes out to 10 000 light years.   
      
   Jan   
      
   [1] Do have a look at the original 1919 photographs.   
   The observed stars are well outside the corona.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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