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   Physfitfreak to Physfitfreak   
   Re: OK, .. Let's See :-) (1/2)   
   05 Jul 25 15:12:04   
   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/5/25 12:15 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
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   >   
   >   
   > The nuclear inspectors of IAEA left Iran :) They'll never go back to   
   > Iran. Iran had not officially asked them to leave. They left because   
   > they feared with new documents Iran has obtained, they could get   
   > arrested as spies. Oh, they won't go back to Iran!   
   >   
   > And boy, they were in a hurry. Didn't wait till air travel opens up (it   
   > got open today); they took the ground routes and hurriedly got   
   > themselves to Armenia.   
   >   
   >   
   > Iranian researchers have given out their own calculations of the cost of   
   > the 12 day war for Israel: $40 Billion! .. This isn't bullshit, by the   
   > way. It is gold in this sea of lies spread around this war about the   
   > toll Israelis paid.z   
   >   
   > Very briefly, they've calculated them as:   
   >   
   > - military expenditure = $12.2 Billion   
   > - total indirect economic toll = $21.4 Billion (includes damages to   
   > businesses)   
   > - military property destruction = $4.5 Billion   
   > - evacuations and shelter = $2 Billion   
   >   
   > As you see, the consequential economic impact is by itself as high as   
   > all other costs combined. This is the number one reality that Israel   
   > stays so quiet about. Because it tells too much about Israel's Achilles'   
   > heel. War with Iran will solve the problem of Israel for the region.   
   >   
   > So it was a $40 Billion project, this war, for Israel. I don't know how   
   > Iran's end of these costs are because part of it is not disclosed to   
   > anybody. The fact that Israelis also do not reveal it says a lot, by the   
   > way.   
   >   
   > I only know that the military expenditure part of the whole loss has   
   > been between $50 Million to $100 Million only, which is that same 0.5%   
   > ratio I've mentioned in these blogs over and over. Military stuff costs   
   > Israel (and Americans) 200 times more than they do to Iranians.   
   >   
   > I wasn't that far off when I said continuation of the war was suicide   
   > for Israel. So let's see the next one coming will end sooner than 12   
   > days or much longer than that :)   
   >   
   > Strategically, it is very much a matter of Ukraine also. Ukraine is   
   > absorbing a good part of the munitions and war equipment that would   
   > otherwise go to Israel, and directly and immediately from there used   
   > against Iran. So Russia (and China) are defending Iran in an indirect   
   > way. When the toll for Russia got too high in this, China wisely stepped   
   > in to take some of the burden off from Russia. This isn't imagination.   
   > It is every bit the reality. It is the number one reason why Ukraine war   
   > doesn't end. It had saved, be it temporarily, Syria before and now it   
   > helps Iran. The culprits, i.e., the roots of the problem, are Israel and   
   > USA's plans with the region that has Iran inside it.   
   >   
   > Today, in fact, Chinese foreign minister told his EU counterpart that   
   > China does NOT want war in Ukraine come to an end because what hostility   
   > is in Ukraine's war right now will just be transferred and get added to   
   > the war with Iran where matters are much more sensitive to China than   
   > Ukraine's issue could ever be of importance to them. China buys Iran's   
   > oil, and if anybody, including your infant Trump, goes to disturb that,   
   > it would mean a direct war with China.   
   >   
   > The EU people listening to him (Chinese foreign minister) were shocked   
   > by his straightforward remarks :)   
   >   
   > I think Wang Yi told this to their stupid faces cause he'd become sick   
   > of EU's continuous effort to sweep the facts under the rug and call it   
   > "politics." Politics is not Israeli way of dealing with facts. It is   
   > very much dealing with facts directly and pretty much honestly too!   
   >   
   > I think he heard so much bullshit from those Bitch people about "Why are   
   > you helping Russia in this war?" and idiotic nonsense they had asked   
   > Trump earlier ("Why are you giving more importance to Israel than   
   > Ukraine?"), till at last he had enough of it. Politics is not knowing   
   > the answer and yet asking the questions to see if your counterpart knows   
   > it too.. That's pitiful. That's what stupid high school smart aleks do,   
   > not politicians.   
   >   
   > So I'm not surprised at all that Yi responded like that right into their   
   > faces.   
   >   
   > The real war is ongoing while being dormant, and that's a war between   
   > USA and China, and a big part of it is over West Asia region where Iran   
   > is and has been for thousands of years. It is behind anything that's   
   > happening.   
   >   
   >   
   > What Trump has been pushing for, is to help Israel against Iran instead   
   > of helping Ukraine, because he wants to take the oil that Iran sells to   
   > China away from China. And for this, he hopes that Europeans would fill   
   > up the gap in help for Ukraine and pay for it out of their own pockets.   
   > He thinks this might work. I think it's clear that it won't because the   
   > more Europeans compensate for the absence of American weapons and   
   > munitions, the larger Russia and China will expand the war in Ukraine,   
   > forcing Americans back into spending part of its resources for Ukraine   
   > and not Israel, thus keeping Israel at the subsistence level as far as   
   > war with Iran is concerned.   
   >   
   > Putin and Xi both hold this card, and they've been using it too for some   
   > time now. What I don't know, is whether Russia or China themselves came   
   > to this understanding, or, they were "helped" a bit by Iranian   
   > politicians, cause I believe Iran has better politicians than Russia and   
   > China have as far as matters related to Nazis of USA and Europe are   
   > concerned. Iran has had quite a lot of experience in that.   
   >   
   > And this push and pull is ongoing right now. A big batch of armaments   
   > belonging to USA that was agreed upon and sent to Poland to be   
   > transferred to Ukrainians, was suddenly stopped in Poland. I think Trump   
   > wants to get them back from Europe and give them to Israel, which in   
   > turn means another attempt from Israel to attack Iran, which   
   > consequently will cause Putin and Xi to escalate the war in Ukraine,   
   > raising the level of armaments that Ukraine needs to protect itself.   
   >   
   > Trump's plan wins only if Europe would all by themselves prove to be   
   > able to sacrifice enough of their resources to fully compensate for what   
   > Russia (and China) destroy in Ukraine. I think this plan of Trump had a   
   > chance, and only a chance, before China joined, and not after.   
   >   
   > And obviously China joined in because Trump's plan had a chance. I.e. EU   
   > collectively might match Russia in resources.   
   >   
   > A lot of Iranians got pretty pissed when neither Russia nor China   
   > tactically helped Iran in any direct way, in this 12 day war. I guess   
   > they didn't notice that this war caused Ukrainian war to escalate. Putin   
   > raised the level of attacks and destruction of Ukraine's armaments. This   
      
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