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|    Physfitfreak to Physfitfreak    |
|    Re: OK, .. Let's See :-) (2/2)    |
|    05 Jul 25 15:12:04    |
      [continued from previous message]              > _caused_ U.S. military armaments get shipped to Europe to be given to       > Ukraine, after all. But that shipment is now stopped and I'm not aware       > yet if they've said exactly for what reason.       >       > Also note that Iran's card of mining the Strait of Hormoz is not just a       > way of pressuring USA, but very much so pressuring China as well. In       > fact it will hurt China more than it does to USA. But results are the       > same regardless. It is a way of throwing China at USA! And Iran can do       > that. She's even decided it in the parliament and it has been OKed by       > Guardian Council. It only needs a signature, and less than 15 minutes of       > time to get done!       >       >       >       >       >       >                     Now that Iran's calculation of Israeli losses in the 12 day war is out,       one British news outlet opened its mouth about the military property       destruction part of it, saying a total of 5 military bases and camps       were attacked by Iran:              - Tel Nof airbase       - military stuff in Beit Nehemiq       - Camp Glilot       - Irtah       - Camp Zipporit              One of the above is a military data gathering center and another deals       with military logistics. Israelis now admit they were hit but quickly       claim their "functioning" did not stop. And of course they don't say how       much it has cost them. They (both military and the cabinet) haven't       denied Iran's calculation of it either :)              Eventually these calculations may prove themselves to be reasonable as       the dollar figures of USA and Europe's military assistance to Israel       will add up to the right amount. These figures aren't that hard to find.                     Using the 5th column for war effort has its consequences. Iranians are       claiming that a huge amount of additional information has so far been       obtained about Mossad from thousands of individuals who've so far been       arrested.              Only one of results among many has been (according to an Arab website)       identification and arrest of close to 700 spies inside Iran! These       agents are no "5th column" forces, but outright active agents working       full time for various foreign countries. This is a feat of achievement.       Among them are foreigners as well as Iranians.              How much Israeli/American loss of dollar involves that aspect of       expenditure in this war? I bet it is included in the "military       expenditure" part of the calculations made.                     Earlier I said something about Ukraine being used by Russia and China as       a sink for military assistance that USA and Europe have been otherwise       delivering to Israel. I mentioned that Russia/China can raise the       intensity and cost of Ukraine's war as they wish. I did not say to what       extent though :) What is the limit of that? How far will the two       countries go in that war to keep wars away from West Asia?              It depends on how important West Asia is to them. I think it is       extremely important. It is vital for them indeed. So if Ukraine at some       point capitulates, then the war might keep going beyond Ukraine!       Already, EU heads of state are saying if they don't raise the levels of       military assistance to Ukraine, they might as well begin learning the       Russian language :) Hahhahhahahahhh :-))              They said that just today :)              So.. a bit of informed prediction can be done. Americans' dormant war       with China can cost Americans the entire Europe; and only then, i.e.,       when Europe is occupied by Russia, Americans can begin pushing China out       of West Asia, this time all by themselves. To say this another way,       Israel has to be more important to USA than the entire Europe, not just       Ukraine!..              Is that so?..              Just what _is_ Americans' interest in Europe? Has anybody looked into       it? Are there any realistic books about it published? Papers sure, but       papers aren't open to access by the public anymore. So..              Again, time to step back and look at the big picture.              They cannot hide the big picture inside inaccessible papers :) It always       shows itself. And it's free to access. All that's required is to have a       dick like Physfit's. So the bottom line is that Americans, at this       point, still consider the entire EU as a bargaining card. Why did Trump       want to get Greenland and Canada? I think it is because Americans are       willing to let EU go to Russians, but not Greenland and Canada, and that       they may be getting themselves ready to exchange EU with West Asia       between themselves and the Russians/Chinese.              I think Americans will lose the dormant war with China, in both dormant       as well as open modes, and will eventually get themselves and their       "Israelis" out of West Asia for good. I think it'll be "The Americas" on       one side of the Earth, and the rest of the Earth on the other side of       it. That's the future arrangement.              Then devouring of cro-magnons by the Modern Humans will begin in both       hemispheres. Literally. They'll move to eat you cro-magnons out of this       world. You will gradually be defecated out until we won't see a       cro-magnon anymore. Things then get a chance to settle at last. We can't       have a species so close to humans.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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