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   Physfitfreak to Physfitfreak   
   Re: OK, .. Let's See :-) (1/2)   
   05 Jul 25 16:03:36   
   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/5/25 3:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   > On 7/5/25 12:15 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> The nuclear inspectors of IAEA left Iran :) They'll never go back to   
   >> Iran. Iran had not officially asked them to leave. They left because   
   >> they feared with new documents Iran has obtained, they could get   
   >> arrested as spies. Oh, they won't go back to Iran!   
   >>   
   >> And boy, they were in a hurry. Didn't wait till air travel opens up   
   >> (it got open today); they took the ground routes and hurriedly got   
   >> themselves to Armenia.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Iranian researchers have given out their own calculations of the cost   
   >> of the 12 day war for Israel: $40 Billion! .. This isn't bullshit, by   
   >> the way. It is gold in this sea of lies spread around this war about   
   >> the toll Israelis paid.z   
   >>   
   >> Very briefly, they've calculated them as:   
   >>   
   >> - military expenditure = $12.2 Billion   
   >> - total indirect economic toll = $21.4 Billion (includes damages to   
   >> businesses)   
   >> - military property destruction = $4.5 Billion   
   >> - evacuations and shelter = $2 Billion   
   >>   
   >> As you see, the consequential economic impact is by itself as high as   
   >> all other costs combined. This is the number one reality that Israel   
   >> stays so quiet about. Because it tells too much about Israel's   
   >> Achilles' heel. War with Iran will solve the problem of Israel for the   
   >> region.   
   >>   
   >> So it was a $40 Billion project, this war, for Israel. I don't know   
   >> how Iran's end of these costs are because part of it is not disclosed   
   >> to anybody. The fact that Israelis also do not reveal it says a lot,   
   >> by the way.   
   >>   
   >> I only know that the military expenditure part of the whole loss has   
   >> been between $50 Million to $100 Million only, which is that same 0.5%   
   >> ratio I've mentioned in these blogs over and over. Military stuff   
   >> costs Israel (and Americans) 200 times more than they do to Iranians.   
   >>   
   >> I wasn't that far off when I said continuation of the war was suicide   
   >> for Israel. So let's see the next one coming will end sooner than 12   
   >> days or much longer than that :)   
   >>   
   >> Strategically, it is very much a matter of Ukraine also. Ukraine is   
   >> absorbing a good part of the munitions and war equipment that would   
   >> otherwise go to Israel, and directly and immediately from there used   
   >> against Iran. So Russia (and China) are defending Iran in an indirect   
   >> way. When the toll for Russia got too high in this, China wisely   
   >> stepped in to take some of the burden off from Russia. This isn't   
   >> imagination. It is every bit the reality. It is the number one reason   
   >> why Ukraine war doesn't end. It had saved, be it temporarily, Syria   
   >> before and now it helps Iran. The culprits, i.e., the roots of the   
   >> problem, are Israel and USA's plans with the region that has Iran   
   >> inside it.   
   >>   
   >> Today, in fact, Chinese foreign minister told his EU counterpart that   
   >> China does NOT want war in Ukraine come to an end because what   
   >> hostility is in Ukraine's war right now will just be transferred and   
   >> get added to the war with Iran where matters are much more sensitive   
   >> to China than Ukraine's issue could ever be of importance to them.   
   >> China buys Iran's oil, and if anybody, including your infant Trump,   
   >> goes to disturb that, it would mean a direct war with China.   
   >>   
   >> The EU people listening to him (Chinese foreign minister) were shocked   
   >> by his straightforward remarks :)   
   >>   
   >> I think Wang Yi told this to their stupid faces cause he'd become sick   
   >> of EU's continuous effort to sweep the facts under the rug and call it   
   >> "politics." Politics is not Israeli way of dealing with facts. It is   
   >> very much dealing with facts directly and pretty much honestly too!   
   >>   
   >> I think he heard so much bullshit from those Bitch people about "Why   
   >> are you helping Russia in this war?" and idiotic nonsense they had   
   >> asked Trump earlier ("Why are you giving more importance to Israel   
   >> than Ukraine?"), till at last he had enough of it. Politics is not   
   >> knowing the answer and yet asking the questions to see if your   
   >> counterpart knows it too.. That's pitiful. That's what stupid high   
   >> school smart aleks do, not politicians.   
   >>   
   >> So I'm not surprised at all that Yi responded like that right into   
   >> their faces.   
   >>   
   >> The real war is ongoing while being dormant, and that's a war between   
   >> USA and China, and a big part of it is over West Asia region where   
   >> Iran is and has been for thousands of years. It is behind anything   
   >> that's happening.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> What Trump has been pushing for, is to help Israel against Iran   
   >> instead of helping Ukraine, because he wants to take the oil that Iran   
   >> sells to China away from China. And for this, he hopes that Europeans   
   >> would fill up the gap in help for Ukraine and pay for it out of their   
   >> own pockets. He thinks this might work. I think it's clear that it   
   >> won't because the more Europeans compensate for the absence of   
   >> American weapons and munitions, the larger Russia and China will   
   >> expand the war in Ukraine, forcing Americans back into spending part   
   >> of its resources for Ukraine and not Israel, thus keeping Israel at   
   >> the subsistence level as far as war with Iran is concerned.   
   >>   
   >> Putin and Xi both hold this card, and they've been using it too for   
   >> some time now. What I don't know, is whether Russia or China   
   >> themselves came to this understanding, or, they were "helped" a bit by   
   >> Iranian politicians, cause I believe Iran has better politicians than   
   >> Russia and China have as far as matters related to Nazis of USA and   
   >> Europe are concerned. Iran has had quite a lot of experience in that.   
   >>   
   >> And this push and pull is ongoing right now. A big batch of armaments   
   >> belonging to USA that was agreed upon and sent to Poland to be   
   >> transferred to Ukrainians, was suddenly stopped in Poland. I think   
   >> Trump wants to get them back from Europe and give them to Israel,   
   >> which in turn means another attempt from Israel to attack Iran, which   
   >> consequently will cause Putin and Xi to escalate the war in Ukraine,   
   >> raising the level of armaments that Ukraine needs to protect itself.   
   >>   
   >> Trump's plan wins only if Europe would all by themselves prove to be   
   >> able to sacrifice enough of their resources to fully compensate for   
   >> what Russia (and China) destroy in Ukraine. I think this plan of Trump   
   >> had a chance, and only a chance, before China joined, and not after.   
   >>   
   >> And obviously China joined in because Trump's plan had a chance. I.e.   
   >> EU collectively might match Russia in resources.   
   >>   
   >> A lot of Iranians got pretty pissed when neither Russia nor China   
      
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