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|    Re: OK, .. Let's See :-) (1/3)    |
|    05 Jul 25 20:41:53    |
   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/5/25 4:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   > On 7/5/25 3:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >> On 7/5/25 12:15 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> The nuclear inspectors of IAEA left Iran :) They'll never go back to   
   >>> Iran. Iran had not officially asked them to leave. They left because   
   >>> they feared with new documents Iran has obtained, they could get   
   >>> arrested as spies. Oh, they won't go back to Iran!   
   >>>   
   >>> And boy, they were in a hurry. Didn't wait till air travel opens up   
   >>> (it got open today); they took the ground routes and hurriedly got   
   >>> themselves to Armenia.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Iranian researchers have given out their own calculations of the cost   
   >>> of the 12 day war for Israel: $40 Billion! .. This isn't bullshit, by   
   >>> the way. It is gold in this sea of lies spread around this war about   
   >>> the toll Israelis paid.z   
   >>>   
   >>> Very briefly, they've calculated them as:   
   >>>   
   >>> - military expenditure = $12.2 Billion   
   >>> - total indirect economic toll = $21.4 Billion (includes damages to   
   >>> businesses)   
   >>> - military property destruction = $4.5 Billion   
   >>> - evacuations and shelter = $2 Billion   
   >>>   
   >>> As you see, the consequential economic impact is by itself as high as   
   >>> all other costs combined. This is the number one reality that Israel   
   >>> stays so quiet about. Because it tells too much about Israel's   
   >>> Achilles' heel. War with Iran will solve the problem of Israel for   
   >>> the region.   
   >>>   
   >>> So it was a $40 Billion project, this war, for Israel. I don't know   
   >>> how Iran's end of these costs are because part of it is not disclosed   
   >>> to anybody. The fact that Israelis also do not reveal it says a lot,   
   >>> by the way.   
   >>>   
   >>> I only know that the military expenditure part of the whole loss has   
   >>> been between $50 Million to $100 Million only, which is that same   
   >>> 0.5% ratio I've mentioned in these blogs over and over. Military   
   >>> stuff costs Israel (and Americans) 200 times more than they do to   
   >>> Iranians.   
   >>>   
   >>> I wasn't that far off when I said continuation of the war was suicide   
   >>> for Israel. So let's see the next one coming will end sooner than 12   
   >>> days or much longer than that :)   
   >>>   
   >>> Strategically, it is very much a matter of Ukraine also. Ukraine is   
   >>> absorbing a good part of the munitions and war equipment that would   
   >>> otherwise go to Israel, and directly and immediately from there used   
   >>> against Iran. So Russia (and China) are defending Iran in an indirect   
   >>> way. When the toll for Russia got too high in this, China wisely   
   >>> stepped in to take some of the burden off from Russia. This isn't   
   >>> imagination. It is every bit the reality. It is the number one reason   
   >>> why Ukraine war doesn't end. It had saved, be it temporarily, Syria   
   >>> before and now it helps Iran. The culprits, i.e., the roots of the   
   >>> problem, are Israel and USA's plans with the region that has Iran   
   >>> inside it.   
   >>>   
   >>> Today, in fact, Chinese foreign minister told his EU counterpart that   
   >>> China does NOT want war in Ukraine come to an end because what   
   >>> hostility is in Ukraine's war right now will just be transferred and   
   >>> get added to the war with Iran where matters are much more sensitive   
   >>> to China than Ukraine's issue could ever be of importance to them.   
   >>> China buys Iran's oil, and if anybody, including your infant Trump,   
   >>> goes to disturb that, it would mean a direct war with China.   
   >>>   
   >>> The EU people listening to him (Chinese foreign minister) were   
   >>> shocked by his straightforward remarks :)   
   >>>   
   >>> I think Wang Yi told this to their stupid faces cause he'd become   
   >>> sick of EU's continuous effort to sweep the facts under the rug and   
   >>> call it "politics." Politics is not Israeli way of dealing with   
   >>> facts. It is very much dealing with facts directly and pretty much   
   >>> honestly too!   
   >>>   
   >>> I think he heard so much bullshit from those Bitch people about "Why   
   >>> are you helping Russia in this war?" and idiotic nonsense they had   
   >>> asked Trump earlier ("Why are you giving more importance to Israel   
   >>> than Ukraine?"), till at last he had enough of it. Politics is not   
   >>> knowing the answer and yet asking the questions to see if your   
   >>> counterpart knows it too.. That's pitiful. That's what stupid high   
   >>> school smart aleks do, not politicians.   
   >>>   
   >>> So I'm not surprised at all that Yi responded like that right into   
   >>> their faces.   
   >>>   
   >>> The real war is ongoing while being dormant, and that's a war between   
   >>> USA and China, and a big part of it is over West Asia region where   
   >>> Iran is and has been for thousands of years. It is behind anything   
   >>> that's happening.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> What Trump has been pushing for, is to help Israel against Iran   
   >>> instead of helping Ukraine, because he wants to take the oil that   
   >>> Iran sells to China away from China. And for this, he hopes that   
   >>> Europeans would fill up the gap in help for Ukraine and pay for it   
   >>> out of their own pockets. He thinks this might work. I think it's   
   >>> clear that it won't because the more Europeans compensate for the   
   >>> absence of American weapons and munitions, the larger Russia and   
   >>> China will expand the war in Ukraine, forcing Americans back into   
   >>> spending part of its resources for Ukraine and not Israel, thus   
   >>> keeping Israel at the subsistence level as far as war with Iran is   
   >>> concerned.   
   >>>   
   >>> Putin and Xi both hold this card, and they've been using it too for   
   >>> some time now. What I don't know, is whether Russia or China   
   >>> themselves came to this understanding, or, they were "helped" a bit   
   >>> by Iranian politicians, cause I believe Iran has better politicians   
   >>> than Russia and China have as far as matters related to Nazis of USA   
   >>> and Europe are concerned. Iran has had quite a lot of experience in   
   >>> that.   
   >>>   
   >>> And this push and pull is ongoing right now. A big batch of armaments   
   >>> belonging to USA that was agreed upon and sent to Poland to be   
   >>> transferred to Ukrainians, was suddenly stopped in Poland. I think   
   >>> Trump wants to get them back from Europe and give them to Israel,   
   >>> which in turn means another attempt from Israel to attack Iran, which   
   >>> consequently will cause Putin and Xi to escalate the war in Ukraine,   
   >>> raising the level of armaments that Ukraine needs to protect itself.   
   >>>   
   >>> Trump's plan wins only if Europe would all by themselves prove to be   
   >>> able to sacrifice enough of their resources to fully compensate for   
   >>> what Russia (and China) destroy in Ukraine. I think this plan of   
   >>> Trump had a chance, and only a chance, before China joined, and not   
   >>> after.   
   >>>   
   >>> And obviously China joined in because Trump's plan had a chance. I.e.   
      
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