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|    Physfitfreak to Physfitfreak    |
|    Re: OK, .. Let's See :-) (2/3)    |
|    05 Jul 25 22:25:23    |
      [continued from previous message]              >>>> what Russia (and China) destroy in Ukraine. I think this plan of       >>>> Trump had a chance, and only a chance, before China joined, and not       >>>> after.       >>>>       >>>> And obviously China joined in because Trump's plan had a chance.       >>>> I.e. EU collectively might match Russia in resources.       >>>>       >>>> A lot of Iranians got pretty pissed when neither Russia nor China       >>>> tactically helped Iran in any direct way, in this 12 day war. I       >>>> guess they didn't notice that this war caused Ukrainian war to       >>>> escalate. Putin raised the level of attacks and destruction of       >>>> Ukraine's armaments. This _caused_ U.S. military armaments get       >>>> shipped to Europe to be given to Ukraine, after all. But that       >>>> shipment is now stopped and I'm not aware yet if they've said       >>>> exactly for what reason.       >>>>       >>>> Also note that Iran's card of mining the Strait of Hormoz is not       >>>> just a way of pressuring USA, but very much so pressuring China as       >>>> well. In fact it will hurt China more than it does to USA. But       >>>> results are the same regardless. It is a way of throwing China at       >>>> USA! And Iran can do that. She's even decided it in the parliament       >>>> and it has been OKed by Guardian Council. It only needs a signature,       >>>> and less than 15 minutes of time to get done!       >>>>       >>>>       >>>>       >>>>       >>>>       >>>>       >>>       >>>       >>> Now that Iran's calculation of Israeli losses in the 12 day war is       >>> out, one British news outlet opened its mouth about the military       >>> property destruction part of it, saying a total of 5 military bases       >>> and camps were attacked by Iran:       >>>       >>> - Tel Nof airbase       >>> - military stuff in Beit Nehemiq       >>> - Camp Glilot       >>> - Irtah       >>> - Camp Zipporit       >>>       >>> One of the above is a military data gathering center and another       >>> deals with military logistics. Israelis now admit they were hit but       >>> quickly claim their "functioning" did not stop. And of course they       >>> don't say how much it has cost them. They (both military and the       >>> cabinet) haven't denied Iran's calculation of it either :)       >>>       >>> Eventually these calculations may prove themselves to be reasonable       >>> as the dollar figures of USA and Europe's military assistance to       >>> Israel will add up to the right amount. These figures aren't that       >>> hard to find.       >>>       >>>       >>> Using the 5th column for war effort has its consequences. Iranians       >>> are claiming that a huge amount of additional information has so far       >>> been obtained about Mossad from thousands of individuals who've so       >>> far been arrested.       >>>       >>> Only one of results among many has been (according to an Arab       >>> website) identification and arrest of close to 700 spies inside Iran!       >>> These agents are no "5th column" forces, but outright active agents       >>> working full time for various foreign countries. This is a feat of       >>> achievement. Among them are foreigners as well as Iranians.       >>>       >>> How much Israeli/American loss of dollar involves that aspect of       >>> expenditure in this war? I bet it is included in the "military       >>> expenditure" part of the calculations made.       >>>       >>>       >>> Earlier I said something about Ukraine being used by Russia and China       >>> as a sink for military assistance that USA and Europe have been       >>> otherwise delivering to Israel. I mentioned that Russia/China can       >>> raise the intensity and cost of Ukraine's war as they wish. I did not       >>> say to what extent though :) What is the limit of that? How far will       >>> the two countries go in that war to keep wars away from West Asia?       >>>       >>> It depends on how important West Asia is to them. I think it is       >>> extremely important. It is vital for them indeed. So if Ukraine at       >>> some point capitulates, then the war might keep going beyond Ukraine!       >>> Already, EU heads of state are saying if they don't raise the levels       >>> of military assistance to Ukraine, they might as well begin learning       >>> the Russian language :) Hahhahhahahahhh :-))       >>>       >>> They said that just today :)       >>>       >>> So.. a bit of informed prediction can be done. Americans' dormant war       >>> with China can cost Americans the entire Europe; and only then, i.e.,       >>> when Europe is occupied by Russia, Americans can begin pushing China       >>> out of West Asia, this time all by themselves. To say this another       >>> way, Israel has to be more important to USA than the entire Europe,       >>> not just Ukraine!..       >>>       >>> Is that so?..       >>>       >>> Just what _is_ Americans' interest in Europe? Has anybody looked into       >>> it? Are there any realistic books about it published? Papers sure,       >>> but papers aren't open to access by the public anymore. So..       >>>       >>> Again, time to step back and look at the big picture.       >>>       >>> They cannot hide the big picture inside inaccessible papers :) It       >>> always shows itself. And it's free to access. All that's required is       >>> to have a dick like Physfit's. So the bottom line is that Americans,       >>> at this point, still consider the entire EU as a bargaining card. Why       >>> did Trump want to get Greenland and Canada? I think it is because       >>> Americans are willing to let EU go to Russians, but not Greenland and       >>> Canada, and that they may be getting themselves ready to exchange EU       >>> with West Asia between themselves and the Russians/Chinese.       >>>       >>> I think Americans will lose the dormant war with China, in both       >>> dormant as well as open modes, and will eventually get themselves and       >>> their "Israelis" out of West Asia for good. I think it'll be "The       >>> Americas" on one side of the Earth, and the rest of the Earth on the       >>> other side of it. That's the future arrangement.       >>>       >>> Then devouring of cro-magnons by the Modern Humans will begin in both       >>> hemispheres. Literally. They'll move to eat you cro-magnons out of       >>> this world. You will gradually be defecated out until we won't see a       >>> cro-magnon anymore. Things then get a chance to settle at last. We       >>> can't have a species so close to humans.       >>>       >>>       >>>       >>>       >>>       >>       >>       >> So things like Trump will only have food value. Proteins, fat,       >> minerals, etc. And since the cost and time needed for cro-magnon early       >> humans, from artificial insemination to somewhere in their late teens,       >> is almost that for Modern Humans', the depletion in cro-magnon species       >> population will not be compensated for.       >>       >> For a long while, they'd only be hunted down and eaten, but the time       >> will arrive that I called it 30 years back, "the Fuck'N Eat Combo"       >> period, where fast food restaurants will provide young women for       >> customers to fuck and then eat them.       >>       >> So their population gets reduced and reduced until a point comes where       >> their food value would become that of an exotic dish. And then one day       >> there will only be one cro-magnon human left, who will, in an       >> elaborate ceremonial gathering broadcast live to the world, be eaten!       >>       >> Fuck'N Eat Combos nommo!       >>       >>       >       >       > Why do I think the "concerns" USA and Europe express about nuclear       > matters and Iran is fake? Cause it's easy to probe it and find out.       > Well, for an Iranian anyway. You can see in this war and any public       > turmoil that was created in Iran in the past, that the matter of "regime       > change" has been part of it. That aim, by Nazis in USA and Europe has       > always been part of it. And that's where they fail to hide the fact that       > their nuclear concerns about Iran is all fake.       >       > It is all fake, because no matter what regime comes after this one, it              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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