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   Physfitfreak to Physfitfreak   
   Re: OK, .. Let's See :-) (2/3)   
   05 Jul 25 22:25:23   
   
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   >>>> what Russia (and China) destroy in Ukraine. I think this plan of   
   >>>> Trump had a chance, and only a chance, before China joined, and not   
   >>>> after.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And obviously China joined in because Trump's plan had a chance.   
   >>>> I.e. EU collectively might match Russia in resources.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> A lot of Iranians got pretty pissed when neither Russia nor China   
   >>>> tactically helped Iran in any direct way, in this 12 day war. I   
   >>>> guess they didn't notice that this war caused Ukrainian war to   
   >>>> escalate. Putin raised the level of attacks and destruction of   
   >>>> Ukraine's armaments. This _caused_ U.S. military armaments get   
   >>>> shipped to Europe to be given to Ukraine, after all. But that   
   >>>> shipment is now stopped and I'm not aware yet if they've said   
   >>>> exactly for what reason.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Also note that Iran's card of mining the Strait of Hormoz is not   
   >>>> just a way of pressuring USA, but very much so pressuring China as   
   >>>> well. In fact it will hurt China more than it does to USA. But   
   >>>> results are the same regardless. It is a way of throwing China at   
   >>>> USA! And Iran can do that. She's even decided it in the parliament   
   >>>> and it has been OKed by Guardian Council. It only needs a signature,   
   >>>> and less than 15 minutes of time to get done!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Now that Iran's calculation of Israeli losses in the 12 day war is   
   >>> out, one British news outlet opened its mouth about the military   
   >>> property destruction part of it, saying a total of 5 military bases   
   >>> and camps were attacked by Iran:   
   >>>   
   >>> - Tel Nof airbase   
   >>> - military stuff in Beit Nehemiq   
   >>> - Camp Glilot   
   >>> - Irtah   
   >>> - Camp Zipporit   
   >>>   
   >>> One of the above is a military data gathering center and another   
   >>> deals with military logistics. Israelis now admit they were hit but   
   >>> quickly claim their "functioning" did not stop. And of course they   
   >>> don't say how much it has cost them. They (both military and the   
   >>> cabinet) haven't denied Iran's calculation of it either :)   
   >>>   
   >>> Eventually these calculations may prove themselves to be reasonable   
   >>> as the dollar figures of USA and Europe's military assistance to   
   >>> Israel will add up to the right amount. These figures aren't that   
   >>> hard to find.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Using the 5th column for war effort has its consequences. Iranians   
   >>> are claiming that a huge amount of additional information has so far   
   >>> been obtained about Mossad from thousands of individuals who've so   
   >>> far been arrested.   
   >>>   
   >>> Only one of results among many has been (according to an Arab   
   >>> website) identification and arrest of close to 700 spies inside Iran!   
   >>> These agents are no "5th column" forces, but outright active agents   
   >>> working full time for various foreign countries. This is a feat of   
   >>> achievement. Among them are foreigners as well as Iranians.   
   >>>   
   >>> How much Israeli/American loss of dollar involves that aspect of   
   >>> expenditure in this war? I bet it is included in the "military   
   >>> expenditure" part of the calculations made.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Earlier I said something about Ukraine being used by Russia and China   
   >>> as a sink for military assistance that USA and Europe have been   
   >>> otherwise delivering to Israel. I mentioned that Russia/China can   
   >>> raise the intensity and cost of Ukraine's war as they wish. I did not   
   >>> say to what extent though :) What is the limit of that? How far will   
   >>> the two countries go in that war to keep wars away from West Asia?   
   >>>   
   >>> It depends on how important West Asia is to them. I think it is   
   >>> extremely important. It is vital for them indeed. So if Ukraine at   
   >>> some point capitulates, then the war might keep going beyond Ukraine!   
   >>> Already, EU heads of state are saying if they don't raise the levels   
   >>> of military assistance to Ukraine, they might as well begin learning   
   >>> the Russian language :) Hahhahhahahahhh :-))   
   >>>   
   >>> They said that just today :)   
   >>>   
   >>> So.. a bit of informed prediction can be done. Americans' dormant war   
   >>> with China can cost Americans the entire Europe; and only then, i.e.,   
   >>> when Europe is occupied by Russia, Americans can begin pushing China   
   >>> out of West Asia, this time all by themselves. To say this another   
   >>> way, Israel has to be more important to USA than the entire Europe,   
   >>> not just Ukraine!..   
   >>>   
   >>> Is that so?..   
   >>>   
   >>> Just what _is_ Americans' interest in Europe? Has anybody looked into   
   >>> it? Are there any realistic books about it published? Papers sure,   
   >>> but papers aren't open to access by the public anymore. So..   
   >>>   
   >>> Again, time to step back and look at the big picture.   
   >>>   
   >>> They cannot hide the big picture inside inaccessible papers :) It   
   >>> always shows itself. And it's free to access. All that's required is   
   >>> to have a dick like Physfit's. So the bottom line is that Americans,   
   >>> at this point, still consider the entire EU as a bargaining card. Why   
   >>> did Trump want to get Greenland and Canada? I think it is because   
   >>> Americans are willing to let EU go to Russians, but not Greenland and   
   >>> Canada, and that they may be getting themselves ready to exchange EU   
   >>> with West Asia between themselves and the Russians/Chinese.   
   >>>   
   >>> I think Americans will lose the dormant war with China, in both   
   >>> dormant as well as open modes, and will eventually get themselves and   
   >>> their "Israelis" out of West Asia for good. I think it'll be "The   
   >>> Americas" on one side of the Earth, and the rest of the Earth on the   
   >>> other side of it. That's the future arrangement.   
   >>>   
   >>> Then devouring of cro-magnons by the Modern Humans will begin in both   
   >>> hemispheres. Literally. They'll move to eat you cro-magnons out of   
   >>> this world. You will gradually be defecated out until we won't see a   
   >>> cro-magnon anymore. Things then get a chance to settle at last. We   
   >>> can't have a species so close to humans.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> So things like Trump will only have food value. Proteins, fat,   
   >> minerals, etc. And since the cost and time needed for cro-magnon early   
   >> humans, from artificial insemination to somewhere in their late teens,   
   >> is almost that for Modern Humans', the depletion in cro-magnon species   
   >> population will not be compensated for.   
   >>   
   >> For a long while, they'd only be hunted down and eaten, but the time   
   >> will arrive that I called it 30 years back, "the Fuck'N Eat Combo"   
   >> period, where fast food restaurants will provide young women for   
   >> customers to fuck and then eat them.   
   >>   
   >> So their population gets reduced and reduced until a point comes where   
   >> their food value would become that of an exotic dish. And then one day   
   >> there will only be one cro-magnon human left, who will, in an   
   >> elaborate ceremonial gathering broadcast live to the world, be eaten!   
   >>   
   >> Fuck'N Eat Combos nommo!   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > Why do I think the "concerns" USA and Europe express about nuclear   
   > matters and Iran is fake? Cause it's easy to probe it and find out.   
   > Well, for an Iranian anyway. You can see in this war and any public   
   > turmoil that was created in Iran in the past, that the matter of "regime   
   > change" has been part of it. That aim, by Nazis in USA and Europe has   
   > always been part of it. And that's where they fail to hide the fact that   
   > their nuclear concerns about Iran is all fake.   
   >   
   > It is all fake, because no matter what regime comes after this one, it   
      
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