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   Physfitfreak to Physfitfreak   
   Re: OK, .. Let's See :-) (1/4)   
   05 Jul 25 23:32:47   
   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/5/25 10:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   > On 7/5/25 8:41 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >> On 7/5/25 4:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>> On 7/5/25 3:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>> On 7/5/25 12:15 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The nuclear inspectors of IAEA left Iran :) They'll never go back   
   >>>>> to Iran. Iran had not officially asked them to leave. They left   
   >>>>> because they feared with new documents Iran has obtained, they   
   >>>>> could get arrested as spies. Oh, they won't go back to Iran!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And boy, they were in a hurry. Didn't wait till air travel opens up   
   >>>>> (it got open today); they took the ground routes and hurriedly got   
   >>>>> themselves to Armenia.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Iranian researchers have given out their own calculations of the   
   >>>>> cost of the 12 day war for Israel: $40 Billion! .. This isn't   
   >>>>> bullshit, by the way. It is gold in this sea of lies spread around   
   >>>>> this war about the toll Israelis paid.z   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Very briefly, they've calculated them as:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> - military expenditure = $12.2 Billion   
   >>>>> - total indirect economic toll = $21.4 Billion (includes damages to   
   >>>>> businesses)   
   >>>>> - military property destruction = $4.5 Billion   
   >>>>> - evacuations and shelter = $2 Billion   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> As you see, the consequential economic impact is by itself as high   
   >>>>> as all other costs combined. This is the number one reality that   
   >>>>> Israel stays so quiet about. Because it tells too much about   
   >>>>> Israel's Achilles' heel. War with Iran will solve the problem of   
   >>>>> Israel for the region.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So it was a $40 Billion project, this war, for Israel. I don't know   
   >>>>> how Iran's end of these costs are because part of it is not   
   >>>>> disclosed to anybody. The fact that Israelis also do not reveal it   
   >>>>> says a lot, by the way.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I only know that the military expenditure part of the whole loss   
   >>>>> has been between $50 Million to $100 Million only, which is that   
   >>>>> same 0.5% ratio I've mentioned in these blogs over and over.   
   >>>>> Military stuff costs Israel (and Americans) 200 times more than   
   >>>>> they do to Iranians.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I wasn't that far off when I said continuation of the war was   
   >>>>> suicide for Israel. So let's see the next one coming will end   
   >>>>> sooner than 12 days or much longer than that :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Strategically, it is very much a matter of Ukraine also. Ukraine is   
   >>>>> absorbing a good part of the munitions and war equipment that would   
   >>>>> otherwise go to Israel, and directly and immediately from there   
   >>>>> used against Iran. So Russia (and China) are defending Iran in an   
   >>>>> indirect way. When the toll for Russia got too high in this, China   
   >>>>> wisely stepped in to take some of the burden off from Russia. This   
   >>>>> isn't imagination. It is every bit the reality. It is the number   
   >>>>> one reason why Ukraine war doesn't end. It had saved, be it   
   >>>>> temporarily, Syria before and now it helps Iran. The culprits,   
   >>>>> i.e., the roots of the problem, are Israel and USA's plans with the   
   >>>>> region that has Iran inside it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Today, in fact, Chinese foreign minister told his EU counterpart   
   >>>>> that China does NOT want war in Ukraine come to an end because what   
   >>>>> hostility is in Ukraine's war right now will just be transferred   
   >>>>> and get added to the war with Iran where matters are much more   
   >>>>> sensitive to China than Ukraine's issue could ever be of importance   
   >>>>> to them. China buys Iran's oil, and if anybody, including your   
   >>>>> infant Trump, goes to disturb that, it would mean a direct war with   
   >>>>> China.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The EU people listening to him (Chinese foreign minister) were   
   >>>>> shocked by his straightforward remarks :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I think Wang Yi told this to their stupid faces cause he'd become   
   >>>>> sick of EU's continuous effort to sweep the facts under the rug and   
   >>>>> call it "politics." Politics is not Israeli way of dealing with   
   >>>>> facts. It is very much dealing with facts directly and pretty much   
   >>>>> honestly too!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I think he heard so much bullshit from those Bitch people about   
   >>>>> "Why are you helping Russia in this war?" and idiotic nonsense they   
   >>>>> had asked Trump earlier ("Why are you giving more importance to   
   >>>>> Israel than Ukraine?"), till at last he had enough of it. Politics   
   >>>>> is not knowing the answer and yet asking the questions to see if   
   >>>>> your counterpart knows it too.. That's pitiful. That's what stupid   
   >>>>> high school smart aleks do, not politicians.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So I'm not surprised at all that Yi responded like that right into   
   >>>>> their faces.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The real war is ongoing while being dormant, and that's a war   
   >>>>> between USA and China, and a big part of it is over West Asia   
   >>>>> region where Iran is and has been for thousands of years. It is   
   >>>>> behind anything that's happening.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What Trump has been pushing for, is to help Israel against Iran   
   >>>>> instead of helping Ukraine, because he wants to take the oil that   
   >>>>> Iran sells to China away from China. And for this, he hopes that   
   >>>>> Europeans would fill up the gap in help for Ukraine and pay for it   
   >>>>> out of their own pockets. He thinks this might work. I think it's   
   >>>>> clear that it won't because the more Europeans compensate for the   
   >>>>> absence of American weapons and munitions, the larger Russia and   
   >>>>> China will expand the war in Ukraine, forcing Americans back into   
   >>>>> spending part of its resources for Ukraine and not Israel, thus   
   >>>>> keeping Israel at the subsistence level as far as war with Iran is   
   >>>>> concerned.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Putin and Xi both hold this card, and they've been using it too for   
   >>>>> some time now. What I don't know, is whether Russia or China   
   >>>>> themselves came to this understanding, or, they were "helped" a bit   
   >>>>> by Iranian politicians, cause I believe Iran has better politicians   
   >>>>> than Russia and China have as far as matters related to Nazis of   
   >>>>> USA and Europe are concerned. Iran has had quite a lot of   
   >>>>> experience in that.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And this push and pull is ongoing right now. A big batch of   
   >>>>> armaments belonging to USA that was agreed upon and sent to Poland   
   >>>>> to be transferred to Ukrainians, was suddenly stopped in Poland. I   
   >>>>> think Trump wants to get them back from Europe and give them to   
   >>>>> Israel, which in turn means another attempt from Israel to attack   
   >>>>> Iran, which consequently will cause Putin and Xi to escalate the   
   >>>>> war in Ukraine, raising the level of armaments that Ukraine needs   
   >>>>> to protect itself.   
   >>>>>   
      
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