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   >>>>> Trump's plan wins only if Europe would all by themselves prove to   
   >>>>> be able to sacrifice enough of their resources to fully compensate   
   >>>>> for what Russia (and China) destroy in Ukraine. I think this plan   
   >>>>> of Trump had a chance, and only a chance, before China joined, and   
   >>>>> not after.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And obviously China joined in because Trump's plan had a chance.   
   >>>>> I.e. EU collectively might match Russia in resources.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> A lot of Iranians got pretty pissed when neither Russia nor China   
   >>>>> tactically helped Iran in any direct way, in this 12 day war. I   
   >>>>> guess they didn't notice that this war caused Ukrainian war to   
   >>>>> escalate. Putin raised the level of attacks and destruction of   
   >>>>> Ukraine's armaments. This _caused_ U.S. military armaments get   
   >>>>> shipped to Europe to be given to Ukraine, after all. But that   
   >>>>> shipment is now stopped and I'm not aware yet if they've said   
   >>>>> exactly for what reason.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Also note that Iran's card of mining the Strait of Hormoz is not   
   >>>>> just a way of pressuring USA, but very much so pressuring China as   
   >>>>> well. In fact it will hurt China more than it does to USA. But   
   >>>>> results are the same regardless. It is a way of throwing China at   
   >>>>> USA! And Iran can do that. She's even decided it in the parliament   
   >>>>> and it has been OKed by Guardian Council. It only needs a   
   >>>>> signature, and less than 15 minutes of time to get done!   
   >>>>>   
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   >>>>   
   >>>> Now that Iran's calculation of Israeli losses in the 12 day war is   
   >>>> out, one British news outlet opened its mouth about the military   
   >>>> property destruction part of it, saying a total of 5 military bases   
   >>>> and camps were attacked by Iran:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> - Tel Nof airbase   
   >>>> - military stuff in Beit Nehemiq   
   >>>> - Camp Glilot   
   >>>> - Irtah   
   >>>> - Camp Zipporit   
   >>>>   
   >>>> One of the above is a military data gathering center and another   
   >>>> deals with military logistics. Israelis now admit they were hit but   
   >>>> quickly claim their "functioning" did not stop. And of course they   
   >>>> don't say how much it has cost them. They (both military and the   
   >>>> cabinet) haven't denied Iran's calculation of it either :)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Eventually these calculations may prove themselves to be reasonable   
   >>>> as the dollar figures of USA and Europe's military assistance to   
   >>>> Israel will add up to the right amount. These figures aren't that   
   >>>> hard to find.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Using the 5th column for war effort has its consequences. Iranians   
   >>>> are claiming that a huge amount of additional information has so far   
   >>>> been obtained about Mossad from thousands of individuals who've so   
   >>>> far been arrested.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Only one of results among many has been (according to an Arab   
   >>>> website) identification and arrest of close to 700 spies inside   
   >>>> Iran! These agents are no "5th column" forces, but outright active   
   >>>> agents working full time for various foreign countries. This is a   
   >>>> feat of achievement. Among them are foreigners as well as Iranians.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> How much Israeli/American loss of dollar involves that aspect of   
   >>>> expenditure in this war? I bet it is included in the "military   
   >>>> expenditure" part of the calculations made.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Earlier I said something about Ukraine being used by Russia and   
   >>>> China as a sink for military assistance that USA and Europe have   
   >>>> been otherwise delivering to Israel. I mentioned that Russia/China   
   >>>> can raise the intensity and cost of Ukraine's war as they wish. I   
   >>>> did not say to what extent though :) What is the limit of that? How   
   >>>> far will the two countries go in that war to keep wars away from   
   >>>> West Asia?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It depends on how important West Asia is to them. I think it is   
   >>>> extremely important. It is vital for them indeed. So if Ukraine at   
   >>>> some point capitulates, then the war might keep going beyond   
   >>>> Ukraine! Already, EU heads of state are saying if they don't raise   
   >>>> the levels of military assistance to Ukraine, they might as well   
   >>>> begin learning the Russian language :) Hahhahhahahahhh :-))   
   >>>>   
   >>>> They said that just today :)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So.. a bit of informed prediction can be done. Americans' dormant   
   >>>> war with China can cost Americans the entire Europe; and only then,   
   >>>> i.e., when Europe is occupied by Russia, Americans can begin pushing   
   >>>> China out of West Asia, this time all by themselves. To say this   
   >>>> another way, Israel has to be more important to USA than the entire   
   >>>> Europe, not just Ukraine!..   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Is that so?..   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Just what _is_ Americans' interest in Europe? Has anybody looked   
   >>>> into it? Are there any realistic books about it published? Papers   
   >>>> sure, but papers aren't open to access by the public anymore. So..   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Again, time to step back and look at the big picture.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> They cannot hide the big picture inside inaccessible papers :) It   
   >>>> always shows itself. And it's free to access. All that's required is   
   >>>> to have a dick like Physfit's. So the bottom line is that Americans,   
   >>>> at this point, still consider the entire EU as a bargaining card.   
   >>>> Why did Trump want to get Greenland and Canada? I think it is   
   >>>> because Americans are willing to let EU go to Russians, but not   
   >>>> Greenland and Canada, and that they may be getting themselves ready   
   >>>> to exchange EU with West Asia between themselves and the   
   >>>> Russians/Chinese.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I think Americans will lose the dormant war with China, in both   
   >>>> dormant as well as open modes, and will eventually get themselves   
   >>>> and their "Israelis" out of West Asia for good. I think it'll be   
   >>>> "The Americas" on one side of the Earth, and the rest of the Earth   
   >>>> on the other side of it. That's the future arrangement.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Then devouring of cro-magnons by the Modern Humans will begin in   
   >>>> both hemispheres. Literally. They'll move to eat you cro-magnons out   
   >>>> of this world. You will gradually be defecated out until we won't   
   >>>> see a cro-magnon anymore. Things then get a chance to settle at   
   >>>> last. We can't have a species so close to humans.   
   >>>>   
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   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> So things like Trump will only have food value. Proteins, fat,   
   >>> minerals, etc. And since the cost and time needed for cro-magnon   
   >>> early humans, from artificial insemination to somewhere in their late   
   >>> teens, is almost that for Modern Humans', the depletion in cro-magnon   
   >>> species population will not be compensated for.   
   >>>   
   >>> For a long while, they'd only be hunted down and eaten, but the time   
   >>> will arrive that I called it 30 years back, "the Fuck'N Eat Combo"   
   >>> period, where fast food restaurants will provide young women for   
   >>> customers to fuck and then eat them.   
   >>>   
   >>> So their population gets reduced and reduced until a point comes   
   >>> where their food value would become that of an exotic dish. And then   
   >>> one day there will only be one cro-magnon human left, who will, in an   
   >>> elaborate ceremonial gathering broadcast live to the world, be eaten!   
   >>>   
   >>> Fuck'N Eat Combos nommo!   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Why do I think the "concerns" USA and Europe express about nuclear   
   >> matters and Iran is fake? Cause it's easy to probe it and find out.   
   >> Well, for an Iranian anyway. You can see in this war and any public   
   >> turmoil that was created in Iran in the past, that the matter of   
      
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