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   Physfitfreak to Physfitfreak   
   Re: OK, .. Let's See :-) (1/4)   
   06 Jul 25 15:35:18   
   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/5/25 11:32 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   > On 7/5/25 10:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >> On 7/5/25 8:41 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>> On 7/5/25 4:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>> On 7/5/25 3:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>> On 7/5/25 12:15 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The nuclear inspectors of IAEA left Iran :) They'll never go back   
   >>>>>> to Iran. Iran had not officially asked them to leave. They left   
   >>>>>> because they feared with new documents Iran has obtained, they   
   >>>>>> could get arrested as spies. Oh, they won't go back to Iran!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And boy, they were in a hurry. Didn't wait till air travel opens   
   >>>>>> up (it got open today); they took the ground routes and hurriedly   
   >>>>>> got themselves to Armenia.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Iranian researchers have given out their own calculations of the   
   >>>>>> cost of the 12 day war for Israel: $40 Billion! .. This isn't   
   >>>>>> bullshit, by the way. It is gold in this sea of lies spread around   
   >>>>>> this war about the toll Israelis paid.z   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Very briefly, they've calculated them as:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> - military expenditure = $12.2 Billion   
   >>>>>> - total indirect economic toll = $21.4 Billion (includes damages   
   >>>>>> to businesses)   
   >>>>>> - military property destruction = $4.5 Billion   
   >>>>>> - evacuations and shelter = $2 Billion   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> As you see, the consequential economic impact is by itself as high   
   >>>>>> as all other costs combined. This is the number one reality that   
   >>>>>> Israel stays so quiet about. Because it tells too much about   
   >>>>>> Israel's Achilles' heel. War with Iran will solve the problem of   
   >>>>>> Israel for the region.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So it was a $40 Billion project, this war, for Israel. I don't   
   >>>>>> know how Iran's end of these costs are because part of it is not   
   >>>>>> disclosed to anybody. The fact that Israelis also do not reveal it   
   >>>>>> says a lot, by the way.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I only know that the military expenditure part of the whole loss   
   >>>>>> has been between $50 Million to $100 Million only, which is that   
   >>>>>> same 0.5% ratio I've mentioned in these blogs over and over.   
   >>>>>> Military stuff costs Israel (and Americans) 200 times more than   
   >>>>>> they do to Iranians.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I wasn't that far off when I said continuation of the war was   
   >>>>>> suicide for Israel. So let's see the next one coming will end   
   >>>>>> sooner than 12 days or much longer than that :)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Strategically, it is very much a matter of Ukraine also. Ukraine   
   >>>>>> is absorbing a good part of the munitions and war equipment that   
   >>>>>> would otherwise go to Israel, and directly and immediately from   
   >>>>>> there used against Iran. So Russia (and China) are defending Iran   
   >>>>>> in an indirect way. When the toll for Russia got too high in this,   
   >>>>>> China wisely stepped in to take some of the burden off from   
   >>>>>> Russia. This isn't imagination. It is every bit the reality. It is   
   >>>>>> the number one reason why Ukraine war doesn't end. It had saved,   
   >>>>>> be it temporarily, Syria before and now it helps Iran. The   
   >>>>>> culprits, i.e., the roots of the problem, are Israel and USA's   
   >>>>>> plans with the region that has Iran inside it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Today, in fact, Chinese foreign minister told his EU counterpart   
   >>>>>> that China does NOT want war in Ukraine come to an end because   
   >>>>>> what hostility is in Ukraine's war right now will just be   
   >>>>>> transferred and get added to the war with Iran where matters are   
   >>>>>> much more sensitive to China than Ukraine's issue could ever be of   
   >>>>>> importance to them. China buys Iran's oil, and if anybody,   
   >>>>>> including your infant Trump, goes to disturb that, it would mean a   
   >>>>>> direct war with China.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The EU people listening to him (Chinese foreign minister) were   
   >>>>>> shocked by his straightforward remarks :)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I think Wang Yi told this to their stupid faces cause he'd become   
   >>>>>> sick of EU's continuous effort to sweep the facts under the rug   
   >>>>>> and call it "politics." Politics is not Israeli way of dealing   
   >>>>>> with facts. It is very much dealing with facts directly and pretty   
   >>>>>> much honestly too!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I think he heard so much bullshit from those Bitch people about   
   >>>>>> "Why are you helping Russia in this war?" and idiotic nonsense   
   >>>>>> they had asked Trump earlier ("Why are you giving more importance   
   >>>>>> to Israel than Ukraine?"), till at last he had enough of it.   
   >>>>>> Politics is not knowing the answer and yet asking the questions to   
   >>>>>> see if your counterpart knows it too.. That's pitiful. That's what   
   >>>>>> stupid high school smart aleks do, not politicians.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So I'm not surprised at all that Yi responded like that right into   
   >>>>>> their faces.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The real war is ongoing while being dormant, and that's a war   
   >>>>>> between USA and China, and a big part of it is over West Asia   
   >>>>>> region where Iran is and has been for thousands of years. It is   
   >>>>>> behind anything that's happening.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What Trump has been pushing for, is to help Israel against Iran   
   >>>>>> instead of helping Ukraine, because he wants to take the oil that   
   >>>>>> Iran sells to China away from China. And for this, he hopes that   
   >>>>>> Europeans would fill up the gap in help for Ukraine and pay for it   
   >>>>>> out of their own pockets. He thinks this might work. I think it's   
   >>>>>> clear that it won't because the more Europeans compensate for the   
   >>>>>> absence of American weapons and munitions, the larger Russia and   
   >>>>>> China will expand the war in Ukraine, forcing Americans back into   
   >>>>>> spending part of its resources for Ukraine and not Israel, thus   
   >>>>>> keeping Israel at the subsistence level as far as war with Iran is   
   >>>>>> concerned.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Putin and Xi both hold this card, and they've been using it too   
   >>>>>> for some time now. What I don't know, is whether Russia or China   
   >>>>>> themselves came to this understanding, or, they were "helped" a   
   >>>>>> bit by Iranian politicians, cause I believe Iran has better   
   >>>>>> politicians than Russia and China have as far as matters related   
   >>>>>> to Nazis of USA and Europe are concerned. Iran has had quite a lot   
   >>>>>> of experience in that.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And this push and pull is ongoing right now. A big batch of   
   >>>>>> armaments belonging to USA that was agreed upon and sent to Poland   
   >>>>>> to be transferred to Ukrainians, was suddenly stopped in Poland. I   
   >>>>>> think Trump wants to get them back from Europe and give them to   
   >>>>>> Israel, which in turn means another attempt from Israel to attack   
      
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