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   >>>>>> Iran, which consequently will cause Putin and Xi to escalate the   
   >>>>>> war in Ukraine, raising the level of armaments that Ukraine needs   
   >>>>>> to protect itself.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Trump's plan wins only if Europe would all by themselves prove to   
   >>>>>> be able to sacrifice enough of their resources to fully compensate   
   >>>>>> for what Russia (and China) destroy in Ukraine. I think this plan   
   >>>>>> of Trump had a chance, and only a chance, before China joined, and   
   >>>>>> not after.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And obviously China joined in because Trump's plan had a chance.   
   >>>>>> I.e. EU collectively might match Russia in resources.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> A lot of Iranians got pretty pissed when neither Russia nor China   
   >>>>>> tactically helped Iran in any direct way, in this 12 day war. I   
   >>>>>> guess they didn't notice that this war caused Ukrainian war to   
   >>>>>> escalate. Putin raised the level of attacks and destruction of   
   >>>>>> Ukraine's armaments. This _caused_ U.S. military armaments get   
   >>>>>> shipped to Europe to be given to Ukraine, after all. But that   
   >>>>>> shipment is now stopped and I'm not aware yet if they've said   
   >>>>>> exactly for what reason.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Also note that Iran's card of mining the Strait of Hormoz is not   
   >>>>>> just a way of pressuring USA, but very much so pressuring China as   
   >>>>>> well. In fact it will hurt China more than it does to USA. But   
   >>>>>> results are the same regardless. It is a way of throwing China at   
   >>>>>> USA! And Iran can do that. She's even decided it in the parliament   
   >>>>>> and it has been OKed by Guardian Council. It only needs a   
   >>>>>> signature, and less than 15 minutes of time to get done!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
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   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Now that Iran's calculation of Israeli losses in the 12 day war is   
   >>>>> out, one British news outlet opened its mouth about the military   
   >>>>> property destruction part of it, saying a total of 5 military bases   
   >>>>> and camps were attacked by Iran:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> - Tel Nof airbase   
   >>>>> - military stuff in Beit Nehemiq   
   >>>>> - Camp Glilot   
   >>>>> - Irtah   
   >>>>> - Camp Zipporit   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> One of the above is a military data gathering center and another   
   >>>>> deals with military logistics. Israelis now admit they were hit but   
   >>>>> quickly claim their "functioning" did not stop. And of course they   
   >>>>> don't say how much it has cost them. They (both military and the   
   >>>>> cabinet) haven't denied Iran's calculation of it either :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Eventually these calculations may prove themselves to be reasonable   
   >>>>> as the dollar figures of USA and Europe's military assistance to   
   >>>>> Israel will add up to the right amount. These figures aren't that   
   >>>>> hard to find.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Using the 5th column for war effort has its consequences. Iranians   
   >>>>> are claiming that a huge amount of additional information has so   
   >>>>> far been obtained about Mossad from thousands of individuals who've   
   >>>>> so far been arrested.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Only one of results among many has been (according to an Arab   
   >>>>> website) identification and arrest of close to 700 spies inside   
   >>>>> Iran! These agents are no "5th column" forces, but outright active   
   >>>>> agents working full time for various foreign countries. This is a   
   >>>>> feat of achievement. Among them are foreigners as well as Iranians.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> How much Israeli/American loss of dollar involves that aspect of   
   >>>>> expenditure in this war? I bet it is included in the "military   
   >>>>> expenditure" part of the calculations made.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Earlier I said something about Ukraine being used by Russia and   
   >>>>> China as a sink for military assistance that USA and Europe have   
   >>>>> been otherwise delivering to Israel. I mentioned that Russia/China   
   >>>>> can raise the intensity and cost of Ukraine's war as they wish. I   
   >>>>> did not say to what extent though :) What is the limit of that? How   
   >>>>> far will the two countries go in that war to keep wars away from   
   >>>>> West Asia?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It depends on how important West Asia is to them. I think it is   
   >>>>> extremely important. It is vital for them indeed. So if Ukraine at   
   >>>>> some point capitulates, then the war might keep going beyond   
   >>>>> Ukraine! Already, EU heads of state are saying if they don't raise   
   >>>>> the levels of military assistance to Ukraine, they might as well   
   >>>>> begin learning the Russian language :) Hahhahhahahahhh :-))   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> They said that just today :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So.. a bit of informed prediction can be done. Americans' dormant   
   >>>>> war with China can cost Americans the entire Europe; and only then,   
   >>>>> i.e., when Europe is occupied by Russia, Americans can begin   
   >>>>> pushing China out of West Asia, this time all by themselves. To say   
   >>>>> this another way, Israel has to be more important to USA than the   
   >>>>> entire Europe, not just Ukraine!..   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Is that so?..   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Just what _is_ Americans' interest in Europe? Has anybody looked   
   >>>>> into it? Are there any realistic books about it published? Papers   
   >>>>> sure, but papers aren't open to access by the public anymore. So..   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Again, time to step back and look at the big picture.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> They cannot hide the big picture inside inaccessible papers :) It   
   >>>>> always shows itself. And it's free to access. All that's required   
   >>>>> is to have a dick like Physfit's. So the bottom line is that   
   >>>>> Americans, at this point, still consider the entire EU as a   
   >>>>> bargaining card. Why did Trump want to get Greenland and Canada? I   
   >>>>> think it is because Americans are willing to let EU go to Russians,   
   >>>>> but not Greenland and Canada, and that they may be getting   
   >>>>> themselves ready to exchange EU with West Asia between themselves   
   >>>>> and the Russians/Chinese.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I think Americans will lose the dormant war with China, in both   
   >>>>> dormant as well as open modes, and will eventually get themselves   
   >>>>> and their "Israelis" out of West Asia for good. I think it'll be   
   >>>>> "The Americas" on one side of the Earth, and the rest of the Earth   
   >>>>> on the other side of it. That's the future arrangement.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Then devouring of cro-magnons by the Modern Humans will begin in   
   >>>>> both hemispheres. Literally. They'll move to eat you cro-magnons   
   >>>>> out of this world. You will gradually be defecated out until we   
   >>>>> won't see a cro-magnon anymore. Things then get a chance to settle   
   >>>>> at last. We can't have a species so close to humans.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So things like Trump will only have food value. Proteins, fat,   
   >>>> minerals, etc. And since the cost and time needed for cro-magnon   
   >>>> early humans, from artificial insemination to somewhere in their   
   >>>> late teens, is almost that for Modern Humans', the depletion in   
   >>>> cro-magnon species population will not be compensated for.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> For a long while, they'd only be hunted down and eaten, but the time   
   >>>> will arrive that I called it 30 years back, "the Fuck'N Eat Combo"   
   >>>> period, where fast food restaurants will provide young women for   
   >>>> customers to fuck and then eat them.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So their population gets reduced and reduced until a point comes   
   >>>> where their food value would become that of an exotic dish. And then   
   >>>> one day there will only be one cro-magnon human left, who will, in   
   >>>> an elaborate ceremonial gathering broadcast live to the world, be   
   >>>> eaten!   
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