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|    Re: OK, .. Let's See :-) (1/4)    |
|    06 Jul 25 16:57:37    |
   
   From: physfitfreak@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/6/25 3:56 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   > On 7/6/25 3:35 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >> On 7/5/25 11:32 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>> On 7/5/25 10:25 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>> On 7/5/25 8:41 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>> On 7/5/25 4:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 7/5/25 3:12 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 7/5/25 12:15 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The nuclear inspectors of IAEA left Iran :) They'll never go   
   >>>>>>>> back to Iran. Iran had not officially asked them to leave. They   
   >>>>>>>> left because they feared with new documents Iran has obtained,   
   >>>>>>>> they could get arrested as spies. Oh, they won't go back to Iran!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And boy, they were in a hurry. Didn't wait till air travel opens   
   >>>>>>>> up (it got open today); they took the ground routes and   
   >>>>>>>> hurriedly got themselves to Armenia.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Iranian researchers have given out their own calculations of the   
   >>>>>>>> cost of the 12 day war for Israel: $40 Billion! .. This isn't   
   >>>>>>>> bullshit, by the way. It is gold in this sea of lies spread   
   >>>>>>>> around this war about the toll Israelis paid.z   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Very briefly, they've calculated them as:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> - military expenditure = $12.2 Billion   
   >>>>>>>> - total indirect economic toll = $21.4 Billion (includes damages   
   >>>>>>>> to businesses)   
   >>>>>>>> - military property destruction = $4.5 Billion   
   >>>>>>>> - evacuations and shelter = $2 Billion   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> As you see, the consequential economic impact is by itself as   
   >>>>>>>> high as all other costs combined. This is the number one reality   
   >>>>>>>> that Israel stays so quiet about. Because it tells too much   
   >>>>>>>> about Israel's Achilles' heel. War with Iran will solve the   
   >>>>>>>> problem of Israel for the region.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So it was a $40 Billion project, this war, for Israel. I don't   
   >>>>>>>> know how Iran's end of these costs are because part of it is not   
   >>>>>>>> disclosed to anybody. The fact that Israelis also do not reveal   
   >>>>>>>> it says a lot, by the way.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I only know that the military expenditure part of the whole loss   
   >>>>>>>> has been between $50 Million to $100 Million only, which is that   
   >>>>>>>> same 0.5% ratio I've mentioned in these blogs over and over.   
   >>>>>>>> Military stuff costs Israel (and Americans) 200 times more than   
   >>>>>>>> they do to Iranians.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I wasn't that far off when I said continuation of the war was   
   >>>>>>>> suicide for Israel. So let's see the next one coming will end   
   >>>>>>>> sooner than 12 days or much longer than that :)   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Strategically, it is very much a matter of Ukraine also. Ukraine   
   >>>>>>>> is absorbing a good part of the munitions and war equipment that   
   >>>>>>>> would otherwise go to Israel, and directly and immediately from   
   >>>>>>>> there used against Iran. So Russia (and China) are defending   
   >>>>>>>> Iran in an indirect way. When the toll for Russia got too high   
   >>>>>>>> in this, China wisely stepped in to take some of the burden off   
   >>>>>>>> from Russia. This isn't imagination. It is every bit the   
   >>>>>>>> reality. It is the number one reason why Ukraine war doesn't   
   >>>>>>>> end. It had saved, be it temporarily, Syria before and now it   
   >>>>>>>> helps Iran. The culprits, i.e., the roots of the problem, are   
   >>>>>>>> Israel and USA's plans with the region that has Iran inside it.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Today, in fact, Chinese foreign minister told his EU counterpart   
   >>>>>>>> that China does NOT want war in Ukraine come to an end because   
   >>>>>>>> what hostility is in Ukraine's war right now will just be   
   >>>>>>>> transferred and get added to the war with Iran where matters are   
   >>>>>>>> much more sensitive to China than Ukraine's issue could ever be   
   >>>>>>>> of importance to them. China buys Iran's oil, and if anybody,   
   >>>>>>>> including your infant Trump, goes to disturb that, it would mean   
   >>>>>>>> a direct war with China.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The EU people listening to him (Chinese foreign minister) were   
   >>>>>>>> shocked by his straightforward remarks :)   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I think Wang Yi told this to their stupid faces cause he'd   
   >>>>>>>> become sick of EU's continuous effort to sweep the facts under   
   >>>>>>>> the rug and call it "politics." Politics is not Israeli way of   
   >>>>>>>> dealing with facts. It is very much dealing with facts directly   
   >>>>>>>> and pretty much honestly too!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I think he heard so much bullshit from those Bitch people about   
   >>>>>>>> "Why are you helping Russia in this war?" and idiotic nonsense   
   >>>>>>>> they had asked Trump earlier ("Why are you giving more   
   >>>>>>>> importance to Israel than Ukraine?"), till at last he had enough   
   >>>>>>>> of it. Politics is not knowing the answer and yet asking the   
   >>>>>>>> questions to see if your counterpart knows it too.. That's   
   >>>>>>>> pitiful. That's what stupid high school smart aleks do, not   
   >>>>>>>> politicians.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So I'm not surprised at all that Yi responded like that right   
   >>>>>>>> into their faces.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The real war is ongoing while being dormant, and that's a war   
   >>>>>>>> between USA and China, and a big part of it is over West Asia   
   >>>>>>>> region where Iran is and has been for thousands of years. It is   
   >>>>>>>> behind anything that's happening.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What Trump has been pushing for, is to help Israel against Iran   
   >>>>>>>> instead of helping Ukraine, because he wants to take the oil   
   >>>>>>>> that Iran sells to China away from China. And for this, he hopes   
   >>>>>>>> that Europeans would fill up the gap in help for Ukraine and pay   
   >>>>>>>> for it out of their own pockets. He thinks this might work. I   
   >>>>>>>> think it's clear that it won't because the more Europeans   
   >>>>>>>> compensate for the absence of American weapons and munitions,   
   >>>>>>>> the larger Russia and China will expand the war in Ukraine,   
   >>>>>>>> forcing Americans back into spending part of its resources for   
   >>>>>>>> Ukraine and not Israel, thus keeping Israel at the subsistence   
   >>>>>>>> level as far as war with Iran is concerned.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Putin and Xi both hold this card, and they've been using it too   
   >>>>>>>> for some time now. What I don't know, is whether Russia or China   
   >>>>>>>> themselves came to this understanding, or, they were "helped" a   
   >>>>>>>> bit by Iranian politicians, cause I believe Iran has better   
   >>>>>>>> politicians than Russia and China have as far as matters related   
   >>>>>>>> to Nazis of USA and Europe are concerned. Iran has had quite a   
   >>>>>>>> lot of experience in that.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> And this push and pull is ongoing right now. A big batch of   
      
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