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   Re: OK, .. Let's see :-) (3/3)   
   15 Jul 25 13:01:15   
   
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    >> excuses like, "smartphones in those people's pockets" were responsible   
    >> for it. Or the use of "Whatsapp". Sure, but such things don't always   
    >> work, especially several stories underneath the hills. And these   
    >> secret places are chosen far from the entrances to them, all   
    >> underground. But cellphones (and stupidities in those men to carry   
    >> them) could very well have been used to track them as best as the   
    >> enemy could.   
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    >> Israelis did bomb a very wide areas on the ground where entrances   
    >> were. So there is a chance that all they knew was when and where the   
    >> men had passed through the entrances.   
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    >> But a human link would work best. Better than any electronic way. Or a   
    >> combined human and electronic scheme, like some "Rowhani" keep calling   
    >> every one of them attending the war room from outside.   
    >>   
    >> A lot is being learned now, and a lot is still left to do. It is too   
    >> soon to know for sure.   
    >>   
    >> One of the major operations against the government of Iran took about   
    >> 8 years to fully get investigated! .. But Iranians of today are better   
    >> than those Iranians back then. An earlier enemy operation had taken 2   
    >> years to completely get understood.   
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    > Russians are insisting that they never suggested to Iran to accept the   
    > "zero enrichment" condition.   
    >   
    > And listen to this, then they proceed to repeat this, "We have always   
    > suggested to Iran that the only way toward the solution is via   
    > diplomatic negotiations."   
    >   
    > So that's where the "tail of the rooster" is sticking out from   
    > underneath Russia's clothing. They know what they're saying is bullshit,   
    > and they keep saying it, because they have nothing but bullshit to say   
    > about this matter. They're on Israel's side.   
    >   
    > In other words, Putin is saying that he cannot do a damn thing about   
    > this because interests of Israel in it is at the stake. Someone said a   
    > third of Israelis are Russians. This is no joke. Or was it 2/3rd?..   
    >   
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    > An Indian source has mentioned that USA at this time can only produce 20   
    > THAAD missiles a year, and they used up 4p THAAD missiles to knock off   
    > Iranian missiles on their way to targets. So in a matter of 11 days, to   
    > be exact, USA had to spend two years worth of THAAD missiles.   
    >   
    > Iran, on the other hand, has said that right before Israelis asked to   
    > stop the war, she had means left to continue this war "for about 8   
   years."   
    >   
    > So if it doesn't get nuclear, Iran doesn't need Russia or anybody to win   
    > the war against Israel and USA (and Europe) both, using only   
    > conventional weapons. Time in such a war is strongly on Iran's side.   
    >   
    > But I think Iran must brace for a nuclear war and be prepared for it.   
    > This same Trump was advocating the use of nuclear weapons on Iraq 20   
    > years back. Iran _will_ be attacked by nukes, if she does not have   
    > enough deterrence.   
    >   
    > So obstacles on the way to openly build nukes cannot last long in Iran   
    > regardless of who they are who oppose it. Leader will oppose it? Leader   
    > will lose trust of Iranians and will fade away. Literally all Iranians   
    > are saying Iran should openly build them. Good times are over when 1100   
    > Iranians give their lives for such stupidities and selfishness (or even   
    > treason). Nobody can install obstacles in their ways.   
    >   
    > Leader can go to Karbala, Iraq, and stand under the flag of Abbas and   
    > swiftly get killed by an American drone, if he really chooses so. But   
    > Iranians don't want to be martyrs; they are the real friends of Abbas,   
    > and yes, under the flag of Abbas, trying to stay alive just like Abbas,   
    > and continue his war as Abbas himself did. The times have changed. The   
    > distinction between where the Leader stands and where Iranians are, is   
    > now clear in the open, and therefore bullshit is over. Those loving to   
    > get martyred aren't collaborators of Abbas. They are defeatists. Iran   
    > cannot have that. Abbas couldn't have that either.   
      
   You know I am not sure about the fourty virgins and the   
   you can only go to heaven if you kill people, but nuclear   
   weapons were designed to kill civilians in violation of   
   the Hague Conventions of 1899 which banned killing civilians.   
      
   You think there is even a remote possibility that this could   
   get reversed?   
      
   In other words, (Iran) submits to NNPT testing and verification,   
   if (Israel) agrees to dismantle its nuclear arsenal and also submit   
   to NNPT testing and verification?   
      
   Or is this all about people wanting the 40 virgins in heaven?   
      
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   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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