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   Sylvia Else to JTEM   
   Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Cho   
   30 Nov 25 14:48:40   
   
   XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.paranormal, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: alt.atheism   
   From: sylvia@email.invalid   
      
   On 30-Nov-25 1:20 pm, JTEM wrote:   
   >   JTEM wrote:   
   >   
   > To prove how idiotic the collective is, we need look no   
   > further than what we have all always been taught:   
   >   
   > Time doesn't exist for a photon. it's essentially everywhere   
   > in the universe, or everywhere it can potentially reach,   
   > because time isn't a factor. Ever. Space isn't a factor.   
   > There's no traveling between two points -- there's no time   
   > for it to travel -- so it reaches everywhere... it's already   
   > there!   
   >   
   > Okay, so entangled photons aren't in different places, not   
   > from the perspective of the photon. And they aren't in   
   > different time intervals either. It's always the same place   
   > and the same time for both of them.   
   >   
   > Okay, from THIS point of view, based on everything you have   
   > always been taught about physics, no information is traveling   
   > through time FOR THE PHOTONS. Only us. From our perspective   
   > it is, from the perspective of the photon it isn't.   
   >   
   > Wow. It's almost as if time is relative!   
   >   
   > Travel close to the speed of light and time will move very   
   > differently for you than for me. You always knew this.   
   >   
   > Being intelligent isn't in the accumulation of knowledge. It's   
   > in the application of the knowledge you have. And being stupid   
   > isn't in lacking knowledge, it's in ruthlessly defending that   
   > lack as possession or, even worse, UNDERSTANDING!   
   >   
   > There's but three people on this earth who can claim to   
   > understand time, and I'm pretty sure at least two of them are   
   > lying.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
      
   This doesn't even get close to the issue, since any paradoxes are seen   
   in the measured outcomes, not the photons themselves.   
      
   That said, these "delayed choice" experiments come down sorting photons   
   into groups. The choice is made during the experiment. If the choice is   
   not to sort them in a way that allows an interference pattern to be   
   discovered in each group, then interference patterns are not discovered.   
      
   Sylvia.   
      
   Sylvia.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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