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   Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn to Janis Papanagnou   
   Re: parallel random-access machine (para   
   08 Dec 25 08:51:14   
   
   XPost: comp.lang.misc, sci.physics.relativity   
   From: PointedEars@web.de   
      
   Janis Papanagnou wrote:   
   > On 2025-12-07 15:26, Michael S wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 11:42:40 +0100   
   >> Janis Papanagnou  wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-12-07 10:22, Thomas Heger wrote:   
   >>>> Am Donnerstag000004, 04.12.2025 um 09:57 schrieb Janis Papanagnou:   
   >>>>> [...]   
   >>>>> That's the date of the Z1, isn't it? - The Z3 came later, 1941.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Sure, but the first computer using 'von Neumann architecture' was   
   >>>> actually the Z1 of 1937.   
   >>>   
   >>> Well, yes. At least mostly. That's why I've written upthread that   
   >>> the concepts from the earlier Z1 were reused in Z3.   
   >>   
   >> I'd say, no. Neither Z1 nor Z3 are von Neumann architecture computers.   
   >   
   > Right. - Considering all properties, von Neumann's computers had a   
   > von Neumann's architecture.   
      
   *facepalm*   
      
   Once again:   
      
   | Von Neumann consulted for the Army's Ballistic Research Laboratory, most   
   | notably on the ENIAC project,[274] as a member of its Scientific Advisory   
   | Committee.[275] Although the single-memory, stored-program architecture is   
   | commonly called von Neumann architecture, the architecture was based on   
   | the work of J. Presper Eckert and John Mauchly, inventors of ENIAC and its   
   | successor, EDVAC. While consulting for the EDVAC project at the University   
   | of Pennsylvania, von Neumann wrote an incomplete "First Draft of a Report   
   | on the EDVAC". The paper, whose premature distribution nullified the   
   | patent claims of Eckert and Mauchly, described a computer, that stored   
   | both its data and its program in the same address space, unlike the   
   | earliest computers which stored their programs separately on paper tape or   
   | plugboards. This architecture became the basis of most modern computer   
   | designs.   
      
   	   
      
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