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   Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn to Ruben Safir   
   Re: Why would the center of the earth ha   
   14 Dec 25 03:42:15   
   
   From: PointedEars@web.de   
      
   Ruben Safir wrote:   
   > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn  wrote:   
   >> Popping Mad wrote:   
   >>> On 12/7/25 11:35 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:   
   >>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:   
   >>>>> First of all, it is not good to think of gravitation as a property of an   
   >>>>> object as in "Earth *has* gravity".  That is NOT how it works.  [This is   
   >>>>> frequently taught wrong in schools.]  Instead, it is an *interaction*   
   >>>>> _between_ objects.  According to Newton's theory, objects _attract each   
   >>>>> other_ because they have non-zero mass.  So (according to Newton) it is   
   not   
   >>>>> so that "earth does gravity" but that Terra (_Earth_) has non-zero mass,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ["non-zero X" simply means "X is not equal to zero"]   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> and so do other objects (including people like you and me), and so   
   everything   
   >>>>> is attracted to everything else.  (As the story goes, he realized that   
   an apple   
   >>>>> and Earth attract each other in the same as Earth and the Moon attract   
   each   
   >>>>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^   
   >>>> in the same _way_   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> other, and Earth and the Sun are attracted to each other: Gravitation was   
   >>>>> *universal*, not limited to Earth.  Thus he could also explain how   
   Kepler's   
   >>>>> planetary orbits arose, and predict them.)   
   >>>>>   
   >   
   > You are rambling and you are off topic and not being helpful.   
      
   I don't care what you think because you have no clue what you are talking   
   about.   
      
   >>>>> [One way to understand how the magnitude of the gravitational   
   acceleration   
   >>>>> at the center of Terra is approximately zero is to consider a test object   
   >>>>> with a negligible non-zero mass (a "test mass") there.  It will be   
   attracted   
   >>>>> gravitationally by all the matter that surrounds it (which also has   
   non-zero   
   >>>>> mass) in all directions of space approximately in the same way.  So the   
   net   
   >>>>> gravitational force on it and its net gravitational acceleration are   
   >>>>> approximately zero.]   
   >>>   
   >>> I understand this in theory.  My problem is that if an apple falls from   
   >>> a tree and hits you in the head, it hurts, despite that it falls from   
   >>> the tree because of its gravetational attraction to the Earth, not to you.   
   >>   
   >> That is not quite correct.  There is also a small gravitational force   
   >> between the person and the apple.   
   >   
   > That is irrelevant to the point.   
      
   No, it is not.  That gravitation is an interaction between *all* objects is   
   the key thing to understand here.   
      
   > I think you are writing to hear yourself.   
      
   I think that you are a luser who is having delusions of entitlement.   
      
   > I didn't ask or address a question about degrees of freedom of all the   
   > graviational forces that one can measure in this situation.   
      
   You have no clue what "degrees of freedom" are either, obviously.   
      
   > I was just trying to understand why the pressure at the center, or as one   
   > approaches the center of a planet increases to incredable levels which   
   > the actual pravatational force once experiences reaches zero.   
      
   "incradable"?  "pravational"?  Learn to read, then write.  The sentence   
   above is incoherent babble, even after correcting typos.   
      
   > You are not helping at all in addressing this.   
      
   I was, you are just too self-absorbed to recognize it.   
      
   > You are all over the place.   
      
   It is a complex problem for which there is no one-line explanation.  I have   
   answered your question correctly and broke the problem down for you as best   
   as I could.  It is not my fault if you are not smart enough to grasp it   
   because you are too lazy to read.   
      
   > And your language is difficult to parse.   
      
   Not my problem.  My answer is correct, and my language is exact.  I even   
   made considerable efforts to make it easier to understand after the fact.   
   But you come here with a consumer attitude, and there is no pleasing you.   
      
   > No help is coming from this post on usenet.   
      
   Usenet is not a right, stupid.   
      
   And trim your quotes to the relevant minimum next time.   
      
   Score adjusted.   
      
      
      
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