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   Stefan Ram to Kuan Peng   
   Re: A Derivation of Faraday's law from C   
   20 Jan 26 20:58:44   
   
   From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de   
      
   Kuan Peng  wrote or quoted:   
   >Le 20/01/2026 à 14:13, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) a écrit :   
   >The second coil has an emf acting on it by Faraday's law. This EMF is   
   >constant. So, the current in the second coil is constant.   
      
     Ok.   
      
   >>a field arises from this current   
   >The field from this current is constant.   
      
     Ok.   
      
   >>A portion of this field creates a magnetic flux through the first coil,   
   >This magnetic flux is constant because the current in the second coil is   
   >constant.   
      
     Ok.   
      
   >>which leads to an EMF in the first coil by Faraday's law,   
   >Constant magnetic flux does not change, so " which leads to an EMF " which   
   >is zero in the first coil.   
      
     I see that I have not addressed this point before. Let me give   
     it a try!   
      
     The (increasing) current I1(t) in the first coil creates a flux   
      
   u11(t) = L1 I1(t)   
      
     through the first loop, where L1 is the self-inductance of   
     the first loop (by the definition of inductance). The "(t)"   
     is intended to indicate the time dependency.   
      
     The (constant) current I2 in the second coil creates a flux   
      
   u12 = M I2   
      
     through the first loop where M is the mutual inductance of the   
     loops (by the definition of the mutual inductance).   
      
     The total flux through the first loop is   
      
   u1(t) = u11(t) + u12   
         = L1 I1(t) + M I2.   
      
     The sign of I2 is opposite that of I1 by Lenz's law.   
      
     So one can write: u1(t) = L1 |I1(t)| - M |I2|.   
      
     The flux u1(t) is reduced by M |I2| even if I2 is constant.   
      
     Thus, to get the same flux as without the other coil, |I1(t)|   
     must be greater, which requires more energy than without the   
     other coil.   
      
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