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|    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn to Kuan Peng    |
|    Re: A Derivation of Faraday's law from C    |
|    21 Jan 26 02:12:28    |
      From: PointedEars@web.de              Kuan Peng wrote:       > Le 20/01/2026 à 15:08, John Hasler a écrit :       >> Kuan Peng writes:       >>> However, Faraday’s law does not define :       >>>> the current in coil B creates a field that pushes back against the       >>>> change in current in coil A       >>       >> Coil B is a coil with current in it. Faraday's law predicts that       >> it will generate a field which opposes that generated by coil A.       >       > What if the current in B is constant?              [Those are vector fields that can depend both on time *and* position.       Therefore, it is important to state precisely with respect to what a field       is constant: Does it not vary over time, or does it perhaps vary over time,       but not in space?]              Then, if the external electric field is constant over time or the external       electric field strength is constantly increasing over time, too, the       resulting magnetic field is constant over time, too, as you can see from the       Ampère--Maxwell Law               ∇ × B = μ₀ J + (1/c²) ∂E∕∂t.              Take the (partial) derivative with respect to time, then               ∂/∂t (∇ × B) = μ₀ ∂J/∂t + (1/c²) ∂²E∕∂t².              If I = const., then ||J|| = dI/dA = const., and ∂J/∂t = 0, so               ∂/∂t (∇ × B) = ∇ × ∂B/∂t = (1/c²) ∂²E∕∂t².              Calculating the surface integral over some cross-sectional area A, one finds       by application of the Kelvin--Stokes Theorem (K/S):               ∬_A dA ⋅ (∇ × ∂B/∂t) = (1/c²) ∂²E∕∂t² ∬_A dA               K/S        <==> ∮_C dL ⋅ ∂B/∂t = (1/c²) ∂²E∕∂t² ∬_A dA,              where C is the delimiting curve, so eventually               ∂B/∂t ~ (1/c²) ∂²E∕∂t² ∬_A dA,              and unless ∂²E∕∂t² ≠ 0, then ∂B/∂t = 0. ∂²E∕∂t² = 0 if       either ∂E∕∂t = 0,       i.e. E = const. (wrt. time), or ∂E∕∂t = const. (wrt. time) ≠ 0. ∎              --       PointedEars              Twitter: @PointedEars2       Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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