XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.math   
   From: acm@muc.de   
      
   [ Followup-To: set ]   
      
   In sci.math The Starmaker wrote:   
   > Alan Mackenzie wrote:   
      
   >> In sci.math The Starmaker wrote:   
   >> > Let me give you the facts since most of yous   
   >> > don't have the facts...   
      
   >> > The Universe, or what we call 'the universe' is in fact..   
      
   >> > 'limited' in size.   
      
   >> > It has a boundry.   
      
   >> > It is limited in space...and Time.   
      
   >> Is that right?   
      
   >> Tell me, what is the nature of this boundary? What's it made of?   
      
   >> What would happen to a moving object which hit this boundary? Would it   
   >> bounce off, or would it penetrate the boundary leaving it outside the   
   >> universe (if that notion has any meaning)? Or something else?   
      
   >> > Anybody who tells you different, is WRONG!   
      
   >> Ha ha!   
      
   > If you are inside a balloon...any direction you go you hit a wall.   
      
   I'm not inside a balloon. Maybe you are.   
      
   > space expanding is just a balloon expanding..   
      
   "Just", indeed. It will be somewhat more complicated than that.   
      
   > any 3 year can tell you dat.   
      
   Doubtful. Three year olds don't have developed concepts of space and   
   time.   
      
   > Einstein once said: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human   
   > stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein   
      
      
   > Einstein is saying the universe is NOT infinite.   
      
   No, he said the reverse, but not with any earnestness.   
      
   > 'the universe' is in fact..   
      
   > 'limited' in size.   
      
   This is unknown.   
      
   > It has a boundry.   
      
   The word is spelt "boundary", by the way.   
      
   I ask again, what's this supposed boundary made of? What would happen to   
   an object hitting it? What is outside of this supposed boundary?   
      
   > It is limited in space...and Time.   
      
   So's the surface of the Earth, yet that surface has no boundary.   
      
   > Infinity does not exist.   
      
   Meaningless, unless you can say exactly what you mean by a mathematical   
   concept "not existing".   
      
   > What's wrong with hitting a wall anyway????   
      
   Get into your car and try it. You'd soon find out.   
      
   > Space is expanding faster than the speed of light so that light won't   
   > hit the wall.   
      
   What wall? Just because space is expanding, doesn't mean there's a wall.   
      
   > where did all these Germans come from?   
      
   From Germany.   
      
   > are universities in germany are all free?   
      
   Sadly no.   
      
   > --   
   > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,   
   > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,   
   > and challenge the unchallengeable.   
      
   --   
   Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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