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|    So, That's the Dem Who Pretty Much Cause    |
|    05 Mar 25 01:51:04    |
      XPost: alt.politics.trump, sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       XPost: talk.politics.guns       From: for_aoc@brooklyn.com              As Jeff wrote today, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky caved.       Following his disastrous Oval Office meeting last Friday, he’s crawling       back to President Donald Trump and will reportedly sign the minerals       deal after hurling that agreement into doubt. Trump will announce that       during his address to Congress later this evening.                     It was a self-inflicted political gunshot wound; the man looked down the       barrel of his own gun and got a face-full of buckshot. Only the densest,       most anti-Trump commentators blamed Trump; everyone else knew better.       It’s why there’s been no blowback—Zelensky recognized that he didn’t       have the cards. So, what caused this meltdown? Why did Zelensky think he       was the cock of the walk which led to a diplomatic implosion of epic       proportions for the Ukrainians? The answer is simple: he spoke to       Democrats, very dumb Democrats, like Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT), who       remains undefeated in sniffing his own farts (via NY Post):              Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised       him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering,       according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).              “Just finished a meeting with President Zelensky here in Washington. He       confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace       agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security       arrangements for Ukraine,” Murphy’s office posted on X at 11:15 a.m.       Friday.              He attached a picture of Zelensky at a conference table, with Murphy       seated on the opposite side.              […]              The earlier meeting with Dems undercuts wild claims that Trump and Vice       President J.D. Vance staged an ambush. In fact, it was Zelensky who came       with an ulterior motive.              The purpose of the meeting was to sign the mineral agreement he and       Trump representatives had negotiated. He had twice refused to sign it       after promising to, and thanks to Murphy, we now know he had no       intention of signing it Friday.              By listening to the nakedly partisan advice of Dems instead of dealing       forthrightly with the current president, Zelensky betrayed his       countrymen and, for now at least, leaves them without the military and       diplomatic protection that only America can provide.              Good luck counting on Britain, France and the rest of Europe to save       Ukraine. Maybe the Germans will send strudel.              In a perverse way, Murphy and other Dems got the outcome they wanted.       The fireworks at the White House gave them an excuse to replay their       Russia Russia Russia hoax.              Once again, they and their media handmaidens are dishonestly insisting       that Trump is in Vladimir Putin’s camp.              […]              Zelensky, who privately agreed to the terms, has every right to demand a       security agreement — up to a point. But he didn’t get one and his       decision to respond by insulting the president and vice president,       interrupting them and waving off their responses, was madness.              As Trump noted, the heated jabs made for great television, but it was a       disaster for Ukraine and a gift to Putin.              Zelensky had an opportunity to apologize to Trump in a later interview       with Brett Baier on Fox, but repeatedly refused to do so, saying “I’m       not sure we did something bad.”              Recommended              We Know How Voters Reacted to Trump's Address to Congress. Dems Are in       Serious Trouble.       Matt Vespa       That’s some House of Cards stuff on behalf of Democrats: trot out       someone who you’ve slobbered over for years, Zelensky who some hailed as       Churchill reloaded, only to use him as bait to recycle the Russian       collusion talking points that no one cares or buys anymore except the       exceptionally moronic dregs of the Democratic Party’s base.                     That’s wicked stuff. The support for the war in Ukraine is cratering.       Trump’s win in 2024 should’ve signaled to Zelensky that there was a       shift. And maybe he did realize this. He could read the room, but as       Michael Goodwin in The New York Post noted, it was the wrong one.              Even Marc Thiessen, a Ukraine war supporter, placed all the blame on the       Ukrainian leader, where he said he had to fix this mess or resign:                     Also, Ukraine saw that Europe was all talk, no action. They don’t have       the resources to do what we can. Period. Which is another point of       contention with these Eurotrash countries who secretly hate us. At this       point, I’d be okay letting that whole continent burn.              https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/03/04/it-seems-zele       sky-did-the-read-the-room-but-it-was-the-wrong-one-n2653225              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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