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      [continued from previous message]              meanwhile dropped about 5.4% to $27.04 a share, an estimated $6 billion       loss in market value.              "While disappointed with this outcome, we are confident we delivered a       competitive solution," Lockheed Martin said in a statement.              Boeing has long been a major player in the military aerospace sector,       including developing the F-15 and F/A-18 fighter jets and the KC-46       aerial tanker.              But unlike competitors such as Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman,       which secured domestic contracts for the F-22 Raptor and B-2 Spirit       stealth aircraft respectively, Boeing's long-term defense production       largely relies on foreign acquisition and international defense sales.              Boeing and Lockheed previously faced off to develop the fifth-generation       multirole fighter as part of the Pentagon's Joint Strike Fighter       program. Lockheed's X-35 beat out Boeing's X-32, entering production as       the F-35 Lightning II.              Lockheed's NGAD design       An Instagram story from Lockheed Martin of a black screen with a white       outline of a jet.       Lockheed Martin posted an aircraft outline on its Instagram story that       appeared to resemble an NGAD-like planform. Lockheed Martin/Instagram       Lockheed's hint at its NGAD concept proposal was a lot more subtle. In       2023, Lockheed's Skunk Works division posted a black-and-white aircraft       outline on its Instagram to celebrate its 80th anniversary.              Despite the lack of details in the cryptic post, the planform appears to       resemble a tactical aircraft design, probably related to the Air Force's       NGAD program.              Lockheed further pointed to its bid for participation in the NGAD by       releasing another promotional video later that year that seemingly       referred to the Air Force's pursuit of a hybrid fleet. The video       features crewed and uncrewed systems flying in formation, with       Lockheed's F-35 surrounded by futuristic uncrewed aerial vehicles.              Northrop Grumman withdraws NGAD bid       A still from a video of aircraft in a hangar, with one that looks like a       fighter jet in the foreground. There is a US flag flying above it.       A 2021 video released by Northrop Grumman featured concept renderings of       its future aircraft projects, including what appeared to be a       next-generation fighter jet. Northrop Grumman/YouTube       Northrop Grumman was also competing to be the prime contractor behind       the Air Force's NGAD aircraft. The company hinted at its interest in       participating in the NGAD program in a 2021 promotional video that       appeared to include a tailless stealth fighter in a hangar with historic       and futuristic aircraft.              But Northrop Grumman's bid to build the NGAD fighter was cut short after       it pulled out of consideration in 2023, CEO Kathy Warden announced.              Warden added that the company was "responding to other bidders' request       for proposal as the supplier, that's particularly in our mission system       portfolio."              The Navy's next-gen fighter is up for grabs       An artist rendering of a jet flying in the sky with missiles.       An artist rendering of an early version of Northrop Grumman's design for       the Air Force's sixth-generation fighter. Northrop Grumman       Northrop Grumman was selected to build the B-21 Raider, the Air Force's       first sixth-generation stealth bomber, as part of the service's Long       Range Strike Bomber program.              The company unveiled the stealth bomber in late 2022, and the aircraft       took its maiden flight in November 2023.              Northrop Grumman is still in the running against Boeing to develop the       Navy's next-generation fighter, the F/A-XX, which aims to replace the       F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.              Steep ambitions, steep price tag       An artist rendering of a jet emerging from clouds.       An artist rendering of the US Air Force's sixth-generation fighter, the       F-47. US Air Force       The NGAD's steep ambitions to revolutionize the US air superiority       mission come with an equally steep price tag. In 2018, the Congressional       Budget Office estimated that the NGAD airframe alone could cost up to       $300 million each.              The then Air Force secretary, Frank Kendall, said in 2023 that he       anticipated the unit cost to be "too expensive to be purchased in large       numbers," disclosing the service's plan to team each NGAD with two CCAs.               From 2022 to 2024, Congress allocated $5.1 billion to develop       NGAD-related technologies, which included a "strategic pause" in the       program because of high project costs. In 2025, the Biden administration       requested $2.75 billion to build an NGAD platform, which could skyrocket       to an estimated $5.72 billion by 2029.              'China is a threat today'       An F-22 jet flying with mountains behind it.       An F-22 flying over Davis-Monthan Air Force Base. US Air Force photo by       Airman 1st Class Paige Weldon       Kendall emphasized the pressing need for the NGAD "family of systems"       amid evolving threats by US adversaries, especially after the Pentagon       truncated the procurement of F-22 jets from 750 to 187 in 2009.              "NGAD will include attributes such as enhanced lethality and the ability       to survive, persist, interoperate, and adapt in the air domain, all       within highly contested operational environments," Kendall said in May       2023. "No one does this better than the US Air Force, but we will lose       that edge if we don't move forward now."              The urgency is also spurred in part by China's increasingly       sophisticated long-range air defense and electronic warfare systems as       China-Taiwan tensions contribute to growing militarization in the       Indo-Pacific.              The F-47 is expected to operate closely with two new uncrewed fighters,       so-called "loyal wingmen" that are capable of flying missions too       dangerous for a pilot in the cockpit.              Defense analysts argued that in a war scenario with China, the F-22's       limited range and payload capacity would be ill-suited for the terrain,       consisting of islands spread hundreds of miles apart, leaving the fleet       vulnerable to attack during refueling efforts.              "China is not a future threat; China is a threat today," Kendall said       during a 2024 keynote address.              "I am not saying war in the Pacific is imminent or inevitable. It is       not," he added. "But I am saying that the likelihood is increasing and       will continue to do so."              Recommended video       US Air Force       Donald Trump       Boeing       More       Read next              See the Anduril and General Atomics drones the US Air Force just marked       as the first-ever uncrewed fighter jets              First US sixth-gen fighter jet will be the F-47, Trump says, and Boeing,       not Lockheed, is going to build it              Trump's F-47 decision is upsetting Lockheed's dominance in the stealth       fighter game              A US Air Force general says more than just new fighters and bombers is       needed to win the next war       Business Insider              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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