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   Baxter to Jim Wilkins   
   Re: What are we celebrating?   
   05 Jul 25 14:52:57   
   
   XPost: or.politics, rec.aviation.military   
   From: bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com   
      
   "Jim Wilkins"  wrote in   
   news:104b5m2$1g3ua$1@dont-email.me:   
      
   > "Stephen Harding"  wrote in message   
   > news:104b21q$1f4b1$1@dont-email.me...   
   >   
   > On 7/4/25 10:46 PM, Baxter wrote:   
   >> Democracy ends when the President rules by Executive Order.   
   >>   
   > The recently passed budget became law via one tie breaking vote.  It   
   > was not an executive order.   
   >   
   > The Courts are still a means of restraining executive orders that   
   > might over-reach.   
   > SMH   
   >   
   > -------------------------------------   
   > Then Democrat FDR effectively ended democracy with 3,721 executive   
   > orders, still by far the most. Trump only recently passed Democrat   
   > Clinton (364) and is well short of Democrat Truman (907).   
   > Accuse your opponent of exactly what you do.   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order   
   >   
   > "Before 1932, uncontested executive orders had determined such issues   
   > as national mourning on the death of a president and the lowering of   
   > flags to half-staff.   
   >   
   > President Franklin Roosevelt issued the first of his 3,721 executive   
   > orders on March 6, 1933, declaring a bank holiday, and forbidding   
   > banks to release gold coin or bullion. Executive Order 6102 forbade   
   > the hoarding of gold coin, bullion and gold certificates. A further   
   > executive order required all newly mined domestic gold be delivered to   
   > the Treasury.   
   >   
   > By Executive Order 6581, the president created the Export-Import Bank   
   > of the United States. On March 7, 1934, he established the National   
   > Recovery Review Board (Executive Order 6632). On June 29, the   
   > president issued Executive Order 6763 "under the authority vested in   
   > me by the Constitution", thereby creating the National Labor Relations   
   > Board."   
   >   
   > "...Roosevelt's successor, Harry S. Truman, had ordered private steel   
   > production facilities seized in Executive Order 10340 to support the   
   > Korean War effort: the Court held that the executive order was not   
   > within the power granted to the president by the Constitution."   
   >   
   > Those executive orders created the law, constitutionally the job of   
   > Congress. The President's task is to enforce the law which Biden (162)   
   > blatantly failed to do. Trump is only following the precedent the   
   > Democrats established, they are hypocritically holding him to a double   
   > standard that didn't apply to them.   
   >   
   >   
   Before tRump, executive orders were aimed at the internal affairs of   
   government, deciding how and to what degree legislation will be enforced.   
   tRump has used them to create new legislation.  It is the job of Congress   
   to create any new legislation, the President only decides how (not if) it   
   is implemented.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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