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      [continued from previous message]              revenues and damage to the economy, but three years later, it is clear       that the exodus had limited impact.              In Norway, as elsewhere, the billionaires are getting richer. In 2024,       the 400 wealthiest were worth 2.139tn kroner, up 14% in a year,       according to the business magazine Kapital. But it also reported half of       this wealth was controlled by families relocated abroad.              Fasting believes more will leave. “People are not investing here, not       listing their companies, and finally moving out, which is serious. And I       am sure that if the Labour party continues after the elections now you       will see a boost of people moving,” she says.              Her main argument for scrapping the tax is that it puts Norwegians at a       disadvantage compared with foreign company owners. She says they have to       take dividends out of their companies to pay the tax authorities, which       means less money for growing businesses or starting new ones.              One of the loudest lobby groups is Aksjon for Norsk Eierskap – Action       for Norwegian Ownership. Its backers include the salmon exporter Roger       Hofseth. “If the left wins this time, a lot of people will flee to       Switzerland,” Hofseth told a gathering last month.              “There is this mentality that people who are self-made, they forget they       are a product of the system,” says Alstadsæter at the Centre for Tax       Research. “For me it’s about justice. Everyone should pay a little bit.       The rich get all these public goods. A stable political system, social       security, and a highly educated population with access to free healthcare.”              She believes some reforms are needed, saying the threshold of 1.7m       kroner is too low.              With a sovereign wealth fund that collects the profits from Norway’s       abundant stocks of oil and gas able to contribute 25% of public spending       each year, there is arguably no need for the formuesskatt.              “To me, it’s more about fairness,” says Simen Markussen, the director of       the Ragnar Frisch Centre for Economic Research in Oslo. “It ensures that       capital owners who don’t have labour income are paying a reasonable       amount of tax. It redistributes from the richest to everyone.”              For the very rich, it is particularly effective, as it accounts for most       of the personal taxes they pay.              While the sums collected are not huge, they are meaningful. “Compared       with all taxes on personal income it’s maybe 4.5%,” says Markussen.       “It’s big enough that if a politician says ‘I want to abolish it’ they       should be challenged on how this should be financed. Do you want to       maintain those tax revenues, or what do you want to cut?”              Munthe-Kaas founded the Oda grocery delivery business, which became       Norway’s first “unicorn”, a term used for startups valued at more than       $1bn. He exited the company last year and no longer pays the wealth tax,       but has done previously. He believes it works well, and would prefer a       cut to corporation tax.              “The wealth tax is not a choice between value creation versus       distribution, it gives us both,” he says. “Any tax you bring in will       reduce the ability to either invest or consume, whoever pays it. Taxing       the rich isn’t different in that sense to taxing a middle-class worker.       So when rich people are upset they get less to invest, the same argument       goes for anyone.”              Karl Munthe-Kaas, who founded the Oda delivery grocery delivery       business, believes the wealth tax works well. Photograph: Millionaires       for Humanity       André Nilsen, a neuroscientist and kroner millionaire thanks to family       money and his own investments, pays a small sum in wealth tax each year.       He believes the formuesskatt should stay because it helps pay for social       security. “It is easier to get rich in Norway compared with other       countries. You are free to go on wild explorations of ideas because you       have a safety net that will catch you if it doesn’t work out,” he says.              Although the wealthy often give generously to charity, it cannot replace       tax, he believes. “There must be some kind of system above everyone that       says at least do this.”              There are other ways to target wealth. The UK – in common with many       other countries – taxes dividends, capital gains and inherited money.       But the rates can be much lower than those for wage-based income, and       there are many loopholes and discounts.              Alstadsæter says the wealth tax is harder to dodge: “It’s the only tax       that cannot be avoided through restructuring while living in Norway,       hence the opposition.”               This article was amended on 10 September 2025 to amend the footnote on       the graph showing wealth tax. An earlier version said that it showed the       “party listed is the governing party or leading party in governing       coalition” whereas it showed the governing party or largest party in the       governing coalition.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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