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   Person Familiar With the Matter to Webbster   
   Re: What Percent of Retirees - are as ig   
   03 Jan 26 09:29:28   
   
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   From: PFWTM@cumcast.net   
      
   On 1/2/2026 10:10 PM, Webbster wrote:   
   > Person Familiar With the Matter  wrote in news:10j920s   
   > $jv5n$1@dont-email.me:   
   >   
   >> On 12/22/2025 3:53 PM, Webbster wrote:   
   >>> Henry Ford's success was because he paid his workers better than other   
   >>> rich capitalists so that they could afford to buy his product.   
   >>   
   >> Henry Ford made the automobile affordable for the masses, which was a   
   >> successful formula copied by other American car manufacturers.  It was   
   > a   
   >> bonus for his workers that they were well paid, but their pay checks   
   >> were not the only reason for Ford's success.   
   >>   
   > =========   
   > High Wages & The $5 Day: In 1914, Ford shocked the world by offering a   
   > $5, eight-hour day, attracting top talent, reducing turnover, and giving   
   > workers the means to buy the cars they built, boosting the economy.   
   > ============   
   >   
   > Feedback loop.  Without that pay, Ford might well have been a footnote.   
   > But his workers owning cares put peer pressure on the rest of the   
   > community, etc.   
   >   
      
   There's an old copper mine in Jerome, Arizona which is famous for being   
   one of the few company towns of its era that paid its workers well and   
   provided the workers and their families with amenities that were unheard   
   of elsewhere.  When the Wobblies (union organizers) came to Jerome to   
   try and unioninze the workforce, the workers ran them out of town.   
      
   Bisbee, Arizona, was the opposite. When the workers tried to form a   
   union, the workers were put in box cars and taken by railroad train out   
   into the Mojave Desert and dumped there with no water or food and left   
   to die.  The union organizers were shot and killed.   
      
   --   
   "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of   
   doubt, while the stupid people are full of confidence.” —Charles Bukowski   
      
   "When guns are outlawed, only foreign invaders and the government   
   officials that invited them in will have guns."   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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