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   Jim Wilkins to Webbster   
   Re: system built on socialism eventually   
   16 Jan 26 21:38:25   
   
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   From: muratlanne@gmail.com   
      
   "Tal Yessen"  wrote in message news:20260116161905.1ab09f35@z-z...   
      
   On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 17:42:56 -0000 (UTC)   
   Webbster  wrote:   
      
   > Maybe you asshats should go and learn the definition of "socialism".   
      
   Your pic came up first hit.   
      
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   There is no single definition of socialism though each faction from   
   Anarchists to Syndicalists claims to be the one true faith.   
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensheviks   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin   
   "Bakunin is remembered as a major figure in the history of anarchism and as   
   an opponent of Marxism, especially of the dictatorship of the proletariat,   
   arguing that Marxist states would be one-party dictatorships ruling over the   
   proletariat, not ruled by the proletariat."   
      
   Mussolini was a devoted Marxist and the editor of their newspaper until the   
   Italian party split over the importance of ethnic Italian interests in the   
   newly liberated Balkans. Marxists are globalist. That drove him to create a   
   nationalistic non-Marxist socialist alternative which he called Fascism.   
   "National Socialist" in the name was exactly correct until the demand for   
   high tech rearmament forced Hitler to stop attacking the industrialists who   
   alone knew how to accomplish it. To the average street thug Nazi a   
   screwdriver was only a stabbing weapon. In Germany the "Night of the Long   
   Knives" was a purge of the Marxist hard-liners who had supported the rise to   
   power but now hindered essential further modernization.   
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beefsteak_Nazi   
   "Röhm and large segments of the Nazi Party supported the 25-point National   
   Socialist Program for its perceived socialist, revolutionary, and   
   anti-capitalist positions, expecting Hitler to fulfill his promises when   
   power was finally attained."   
      
   Fascism vs Communism was a civil war between competitors for the same   
   recruits, like Sunni vs Shiite or Protestant vs Catholic. Death to the   
   heretics! If any aren't let God sort them out!  Here is Santa Claus   
   attacking the most notorious one:   
   https://charlotteriggle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/St_Nichol   
   s_slaps_Arius.jpg   
      
   I learned the theory and history from excellent teachers in high school and   
   the very different reality from listening to refugees, most recently from   
   the Congo. The required history class in college wasn't nearly as good or   
   interesting. For example I still remember and typed into Google to check   
   spelling that Leon Czolgosz shot McKinley, Gavrilo Prinzip started WW1 and   
   Guy Fawkes tried to blow up Parliament. Stalin's real last name was   
   Dzugashvili, Lenin's Ulyanov.   
      
   https://victimsofcommunism.org/curriculum-chapter-5/   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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