XPost: talk.politics.guns, seattle.general, talk.politics.misc   
   From: maximusheadroom@gmx.com   
      
   In news:q7tankplv9t93f8r8vp3mjhrfn22spbo3h@4ax.com, !Jones  typed:   
      
   >>In news:10l356a$1u945$2@paganini.bofh.team, Kill White Americans   
   >> typed:   
      
   >>> Keep it up boys!  The only good American is a dead one!   
      
   >>> ICE shootings IN FULL as horror new Minneapolis death marks 12th grim   
   >>> attack   
   >>> After the latest shooting involving US ICE agents was shared online, it   
   >>> adds to a long list of more than two dozen similar incidents since Donald   
   >>> Trump took office for a second term   
      
   >>FAFO.   
      
   > Say, Headley,   
      
   > I know this is a non-sequiter, but I've been wanting to ask: do you   
   > guys still support the second amendment? (The one to the Constitution,   
   > I mean.)   
      
   Yup.   
      
   > Now, I have always been outspoken that I see 2A as a compromise by   
   > which we could get the 1787 Constitution accepted without codifying   
   > slavery into it in any meaningful way.  You and your cohort, OTOH,   
   > have loudly stated that it exists to allow citizens to respond to a   
   > government invasion with deadly force.   
      
   Whether it be Japanese, German, Soviet, Chinese, or even Canadian.   
      
   > So, here we have a person who was shot, and the only evident reason is   
   > that: "He was armed and had two magazines."  Now, don't get me wrong,   
   > I think carrying a gun *should* be a serious crime, but it simply   
   > isn't.  So what, he had a gun?  We all have guns.  It's 2026 and we're   
   > all violent sociopaths.   
      
   Speak for yourself.   
      
   > While I oppose gun carry, if I were the person under assault by the   
   > ICE agents (and had a gun), I would have gone for it immediately...   
   > it's a "target rich environment"; all I gotta do is get a round off   
   > and I've got a good chance of hitting someone.  I'm aware I'd be dead,   
   > but ICE has a history of shooting people anyway and I might get lucky.   
      
   Bad karma.   
      
   > So, here is my question: do you still believe that gun carry is a   
   > human right?  Do you still believe that a person has an indelible   
   > right to defend him or herself if attacked... even when the attackers   
   > are federal agents?   
      
   Yes and yes.   
      
   But I must congratulate Team Blue for driving the news of Minnesota graft/money   
   laundering off the front pages for now. Instead of following the trail of   
   congressional appropriations -> blue states -> favorite NGOs -> Democrat   
   election campaigns, we're talking about ICE... and maybe speeding up the   
   conversion from a cold civil war to a hot civil war.   
      
   "...Antifa 'influencer' and Minnesota cross-dresser Kyle Wagner posted videos   
   on   
   social media urging an armed uprising: 'Get your f-king guns and stop these   
   f-king people . The Second Amendment is the only thing that's gonna keep   
   you ­f-king protected from literal f-king Nazi gunmen.'   
      
   "They want more deaths. They want to incite more violence. It serves their   
   purposes."   
      
   https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/opinion/miranda-devine-more-martyr   
   -for-cynical-dems-after-alex-pretti-shooting/   
      
   > It's an honest question.  I know, we usually don't take questions on   
   > Usenet, but, if you'll address this one, I will reciprocate.  It's not   
   > an easy question, because I think you're in a bit of a dilema here.   
      
   Here's my question for you--   
      
   How did you fuck up the attributing with Forte?   
      
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