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   lo yeeOn to ltlee1@hotmail.com   
   Re: If Saddam was such a "monster" and h   
   21 Mar 13 01:07:15   
   
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   XPost: soc.culture.china, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.british   
   XPost: soc.culture.iraq   
   From: acoustic@panix.com   
      
   In article <917bf51c-7187-46fa-aed8-06adfd07284b@n2g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,   
   ltlee1@hotmail.com  wrote:   
   >On 3月19æ—¥, 下堠 
   ˆ10時35分, acous...@panix.com (lo yeeOn) wrote:   
   >> Blair is still bluffing: "...how can you regret removing somebody who   
   >> was a monster, who created enormous carnage?"   
   >>   
   >> When you hear this kind of response, you begin to wonder how true any   
   >> single statement any of these warmongers have uttered in public can   
   >> be.   
   >   
   >The British magazine has an article with the title of "Anniversary of   
   >a mass delusion." So, may be Blair was not lying nor bluffing. He is   
   >still delusional like many Americans, then and now.   
      
   Perhaps, bluffing should be interpreted here in accordance with the   
   following definition as per Oxford:   
      
      (bluff one's way) contrive a difficult escape or other achievement   
      by maintaining a pretense : he bluffed his way onto an Antarctic   
      supply vessel.   
      
   I think anyone, in front of the mountain of evidence against Blair   
   with respect to his culpability in the Iraq War, can see that to   
   escape that culpability is a difficult task for the perpetrator.   
      
   So he has been "bluffing" to maintain a pretense that he had "good   
   reasons" to cause the huge number of excess deaths in Iraq.  But he   
   cannot fool those who can separate facts from the fiction.   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
   >   
   >I also think British leaders are of the thick skin sort. The US had   
   >apologized for many of its crimes. The British government which   
   >according to some researchers had killed 1.8 billion Indians still   
   >behaves as if it is the light of the earth.   
   >>   
   >> So, no wonder that we have an immediate response from a Lebanese-Iraqi   
   >> architect and blogger based in London, Karl Sharro, who reported has   
   >> bitterly mocked Mr. Blair's 45-minute claim this week, as the former   
   >> prime minister continued to defend the war.   
   >>   
   >>   Karl Sharro @KarlreMarks   
   >>   
   >>   Press reports suggest that Tony Blair can be deployed within 45   
   >>   minutes to declare that he doesn't regret his decision to invade   
   >>   #Iraq.  12:57 PM - 18 Mar 13   
   >>   
   >>   Karl Sharro @KarlreMarks   
   >>   
   >>   The invasion of Iraq forced my entire family there to leave   
   >>   permanently and I don't know when will I see it again. Sorry for not   
   >>   cheering.  1:36 PM - 19 Mar 13   
   >>   
   >> We also know the rest of the story.  The reason why Karl is so   
   >> pessimistic about his chances of returning home to Iraq is because   
   >> Iraq has become a failed state and is unlivable for those who grew up   
   >> and lived there all their lives until the barbarous invasion and   
   >> occupation.  For as long as the billion-dollar US embassy continues to   
   >> exist, Iraq will continue to be a failed state and unlivable for   
   >> anyone except those who can afford to live in the bunkers.   
   >>   
   >> lo yeeOn   
   >>   
   >> March 19, 2013, 1:21 pm 17 Comments   
   >>   
   >> Blair Says Iraq Would Be "Worse Than Syria"   
   >> Now, if Antiwar Critics Had Prevailed   
   >>   
   >> By ROBERT MACKEY   
   >>   
   >> Defending Britain's participation in the American-led invasion of   
   >> Iraq, former Prime Minister Tony Blair told the BBC that Iraq "would   
   >> look a lot more like Syria, and probably a lot worse than Syria,"   
   >> today if the war had not taken place.   
   >>   
   >> Mr. Blair's comments were broadcast as at least 52 people were killed   
   >> by more than a dozen car bombs across Baghdad on Tuesday, the eve of   
   >> the 10th anniversary of the invasion, which removed Saddam Hussein   
   >> from power but led to a bloody insurgency and sectarian violence.   
   >> Estimates of the civilian death toll in Iraq since 2003 vary, but The   
   >> Associated Press has concluded that more than 100,000 Iraqis were   
   >> killed, along with nearly 4,500 Americans and 179 British troops. The   
   >> United Nations estimated in January that more than 60,000 Syrians had   
   >> died in the civil war there.   
   >>   
   >> Focusing the conversation not on the tens of thousands of civilian   
   >> deaths but on the evil done by the dictator removed from power,   
   >> Mr. Blair said: "When people say to me, you know, `Do you regret   
   >> removing him?' I say, `No, how can you regret removing somebody who   
   >> was a monster, who created enormous carnage?'"   
   >>   
   >> He added: "And if you look at what's happening in the Arab Spring   
   >> today, and you examine what's happening in Syria - just reflect on   
   >> what Bashar Assad, who is a twentieth as bad as Saddam, is doing to   
   >> his people today, and the number of lives already lost, just ask   
   >> yourself, `What would be happening in Iraq now if he had been left in   
   >> power?'"   
   >>   
   >> Mr. Blair also told the BBC, "If things continue as they are in Syria   
   >> today, within a few months - proportionate to the size of the   
   >> population - more people will have died in Syria than in the whole of   
   >> the conflict since 2003 in Iraq."   
   >>   
   >> Mr. Blair's decision to support the Bush administration's invasion of   
   >> Iraq came in the face of widespread opposition in Britain. One month   
   >> before the war, Scotland Yard estimated that more than 750,000 people   
   >> took part in one protest rally in London's Hyde Park. They heard the   
   >> playwright Harold Pinter describe the United States as "a monster out   
   >> of control" and a "country run by a bunch of criminal lunatics with   
   >> Blair as their hired Christian thug."   
   >>   
   >> One year after the invasion, an independent inquiry into Britain's   
   >> role in spreading faulty intelligence used to make the case for war   
   >> directly criticized Mr. Blair for having claimed, in late 2002, that   
   >> Iraq had "existing and active military plans for the use of chemical   
   >> and biological weapons, which could be activated within 45 minutes."   
   >> A British intelligence report that Iraq was seeking uranium from   
   >> Africa was also cited by President George Bush in his 2003 State of   
   >> the Union speech, on the eve of war.   
   >>   
   >> A Lebanese-Iraqi architect and blogger based in London, Karl Sharro,   
   >> bitterly mocked Mr. Blair's 45-minute claim this week, as the former   
   >> prime minister continued to defend the war.   
   >>   
   >> Karl Sharro @KarlreMarks   
   >>   
   >> Press reports suggest that Tony Blair can be deployed within 45   
   >> minutes to declare that he doesn't regret his decision to invade   
   >> #Iraq.  12:57 PM - 18 Mar 13   
   >>   
   >> Karl Sharro @KarlreMarks   
   >>   
   >> The invasion of Iraq forced my entire family there to leave   
   >> permanently and I don't know when will I see it again. Sorry for not   
   >> cheering.  1:36 PM - 19 Mar 13   
   >   
      
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