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   For this insult on your username, you can be arrested for insulting a   
   foreign leader. It showed how disrespectful of yourself on these news   
   groups. As Cambodian, you should see a psychiatrist in your downtown   
   Cambodia hospital for medication due to Khmer Rouge"s post trauma stress   
   disorder on you.   
      
   "OLD CHINK LEE KUAN YEW , a HaKKa migrant" wrote in message   
   news:7108a8d0-902c-4990-ae26-af1ee1a29dee@bn1g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...   
      
   Chinese in HONG KONG are just like CHINESE in SINGAPORE ,   
      
   they both just want LOTS of MONEY   
      
   sheltering a WHITE ?   
      
   might as well sheltering a Chinese from China   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   On Jun 14, 1:18 pm, acous...@panix.com (lo yeeOn) wrote:   
   > In article <424b0d93-25a1-484a-98d0-7d60888a2ffd@googlegroups.com>,   
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   > >On Thursday, 13 June 2013 12:40:20 UTC+8, politi...@yahoo.com wrote:   
   > >> Edward Snowden is leaving his fate to the HKers. "My intention is to   
   > >ask the courts and people of Hong Kong to decide my fate," he said. It's   
   > >a very smart move.   
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   > >> He knows HK is a part of China but with a different political system.   
   > >It is a system which the US would like China to have. Since HK's return   
   > >to China in 1997, Western Powers have not ceased to hope and wish that   
   > >HK's political system will eventually replace that of China's and not   
   > >the other way round.   
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   > >> Besides hoping and wishing, Western Powers have worked hard on HK. It   
   > >has encouraged HK people to resist and defy the Mainland authority at   
   > >every available opportunity. HKers are prodded to voice out and demo   
   > >against the slightest perception of the Chinese meddling in their   
   > >affairs. Everyone knows that HK is the Asia-Pacific center of many   
   > >foreign espionage networks spying against China. Among their recruits   
   > >are those Chinese dissidents which have left China. HK is the   
   > >operational hub of those dissidents. Whether there for short visit or   
   > >long stay, from there, they continue to sabotage China under the   
   > >command of their foreign masters. This is most pleasing to the US. It   
   > >cannot have enough of these.   
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   > >> But one man is about to change all these. Edward Snowden has stirred   
   > >up a snowstorm in the hot summer month of June in the US and sent a deep   
   > >chill down the NSA. By choosing HK as his safe haven, the snowstorm has   
   > >crossed the Pacific and is sending a deep chill down the spine of every   
   > >spymaster on the island. In Edward Snowden, the US has its own   
   > >dissident in HK. This is not just another US dissident, but one with   
   > >important information about US cyber-espionage against every country in   
   > >the world. More important, he knows a lot about the US cyber-espionage   
   > >against China. Most important of all, he has information about how the   
   > >US has been using HK to spy against China.   
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   > >> So, what's now?   
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   > >> If the US were to successfully force HK to handover Edward Snowden,   
   > >what will follow?   
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   > >> 1. It will show up its hypocrisy like a sore thumb for the whole world   
   > >to witness. It will make the HK government looks like a lame duck. It   
   > >will show the world that not only is HK not fully independent from China   
   > >which is just across the border, it is not even fully independent from   
   > >the US which is thousands of miles away. From here on, HKers will   
   > >awaken to the fact that the US supports their ideals and political   
   > >system only when these serve US national interest. HK will realise that   
   > >it has been nothing but a tool used by the US in its rivalry against   
   > >China.   
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   > >> 2. The Chinese will be most pleased by the US action. It will do great   
   > >damage to the HK-US relationship. HK will be less swayed by the   
   > >Westerners mouthing of freedom and human rights. It will return more   
   > >tightly to the embrace of the Motherland.   
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   > >> The US action will give the Chinese the morality authority to deal   
   > >unsparingly with its dissidents in HK. The SAR will cease to be an   
   > >operational hub for Chinese dissidents.   
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   > >> If the US leaves Mr. Snowden alone, he will continue to spill   
   > >intelligence info which will sour the relationship between the US and   
   > >many other countries, especially China. He will eventually embrace   
   > >China. The gain for the Chinese will be two-folds. His technical skill   
   > >and knowledge will help the Chinese to counter the US in the realm of   
   > >cyber-warfare. Less tangible but more influential will be the   
   > >psychological victory he gives to the Chinese. As someone else has   
   > >written, it tells the Americans as well as the ordinary Chinese that   
   > >China is as good as the US as a place to be in in this world.   
   > >Henceforth, US criticism on China will be less effective on the general   
   > >Chinese population.   
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   > >> It is a dilemma for the US. Whether it chooses to extradite Mr.   
   > >Snowden or leave him alone, either way will do damage to US national   
   > >interest. The US will be �living in interesting times in the days   
   > >ahead�, as a common Chinese curse goes.   
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   > >lo YeeOn,   
   > >I agree. It depends on how much the HKers support Mr. Snowden.   
   > >It is beginning to show. A demo in support of him was held the   
   > >Consulate-General of the United States.   
   > >But I think they did it wrong. They were demanding that the US   
   > >government pardoned Mr. Snowden. This they don't have the right.   
   > >Instead, there should be only two slogans.   
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   > >�Welcome, Mr. Snowden. Stay as long as you wish.�   
   > >�Buzz off, USA. Leave Mr. Snowden alone.�   
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   > Well, educate them. Show them how to provide hospitality and haven to   
   > a man who is in need and is hoping that he in his desperate moment can   
   > count on them.   
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   > Actually, the people of Hong Kong as well as the Chinese people have   
   > not done anything to stop the bloodshed in Afghanistan and Iraq during   
   > these all these years in the new century. Now they finally have an   
   > opportunity. They do because it is precisely the massive government   
   > surveillance in our land - a land that used to be called the land of   
   > the free - in the new century that has enabled our government to keep   
   > its massively destructive and at the same time counter-productive and   
      
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