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|    Nancy Pelosi: "It is clear that the Amer    |
|    31 Aug 13 00:31:56    |
      XPost: soc.culture.china, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.french       XPost: soc.culture.canada, soc.culture.syria, soc.culture.iraq       XPost: rec.sport.tennis       From: acoustic@panix.com              Translation of Pelosi remark:              We the elites can see that the American people don't want us to kill       Syrian civilians. But their evil dictator threatens the security of       our country, of its neighbors, and of the world. So, you just have to       trust us and not get in the way of our tasty meal full of Syrian blood!              Meanwhile, John Kerry is making the round telling people that Assad       committed crime against humanity and doing so in terms of horribly       graphical description of writhing dead bodies of children in the       hundreds or the thousands - a depiction that is totally contradicted       by the youtube pictures I have personally seen. I was even commenting       to friends the past weekend how deaths caused by nerve gas - as shown       by those pictures I have seen - could be so peaceful, even as I abhor       death no matter how it looks.              Instead of trying to answer the questions about what kind of chemical       compounds were causing those deaths and who have done the deed, Kerry       resorted to dramatics to sway the public opinion. It shows a dramatic       upturn of desparation on the part of the warmongers who now feel they       must "even the playing field" for thir Syrian rebel fighters before       it's too late, having witnessed the stunning defeat of David Cameron's       effort in the House of Commons.              And so desparate are the neocons that Senator Dianne Feinstein, as one       of those senior congressional leaders whom the Obama administration       can entrust with its highly questionable "classified" intelligence       about Assad's "crime against humanity", is telling people that Obama       can go ahead and attack Syria without the approval of Congress.              How nice for Barack Obama to act now exactly like Warhawk John McCain,       the man the American voters soundly rejected in 2008 in favor of Obama       precisely because of the issue they had with GW Bush's war, so that       the neocon masters can continue to move their hegemony agenda,       regardless of the huge expense of lives and property for the Syrians.              One more thing to note: Nancy Pelosi has consistently advertised       herself as a big fan of the Dalai Lama, ostensibly because of his       "nonviolence" teaching. But in the name of American security, she       chooses to completely forget about nonviolence. She sounded like the       violence caused in a modern war is not intrinsically a problem - only       the fatigue factor.               "It is clear that the American people are weary of war..."              I don't think the principle of nonviolence depends on whether you are       tired of war or not. War is violence and unleashes violence and       violence is the antithesis of nonviolence. Either you espouse       nonviolence or you don't. Either it bothers you that many more       civilians will be killed by our cruise missiles or it doesn't.              Whatever insult has been inflicted on the Syrian people, you are       adding a huge amount of injury to their affliction.              Either you can put yourself in a Syrian person's shoes or you don't.       You don't think you will be touched by those American bombs; so you       are fine with the image of yourself knocking heads with the Dalai Lama       with palms pressed and held together tightly to the chest. The gross       inconsistency of your image making and your deed does not bother you       at all. The worst is that you are supporting this only because the       war is actually a one-sided affair. You pummel (like a thug) a people       who have no means to and cannot defend themselves. You wouldn't have       been so cavalier about going forward with this asymmetric war that       will cause a lot of blood to flow, otherwise. You are telling people       that there is a monster, a horrific monster, that we must chase, not       seeing that you are in fact the most horrific, most hypocritical       monster of all to bomb the likes of Um and her family of seven. Um       and her family did not flee from Damascus from Assad, your designated       monster. Rather she was fleeing from your bombs, Nancy!              Remember when you tell Barack to go "get'em, boy". you have taken       possession of the bombs that spill thousands' blood, Nancy. Now you       own this "war" of great injustice.              Nancy Pelosi exhorts Obama to bomb Syria: "Barack, go, go get'em, boy!"              Finally, oh, yeah, she worries about "regional stability" of the       Middle East... So, she wants you to think of her as a humanitarian       who is willing to sacrifice some Syrian civilian lives to save the       lives of many more people from the region.              But that is pure hogwash!              She conveniently let a casual listener forget that Assad's Syria was       minding only its own business and did not invade another country or       cause a civil war, unlike the American spies and their British and       French counterparts, in the past decades.              Syria was in fact keeping the peace in Lebanon for decades with the       blessing of Israel as well as the U.S.              And when Assad's peacekeeping mission was told to shut down, they       obeyed our order. And when we turned Iraq into total chaos, Syria       absorbed a huge number of refugees and kept terrorists from thriving       on its land.              The point is Pelosi is clearly telling a lie when she suggested that       Assad's regime would be "an issue of our national security, regional       security, ...".              These politicians never have a brain nor a heart: for a few shekels       and a place in the market place, they'll do anything to remove the       obstacles that get in their masters' way to wreck the world.              lo yeeOn              Part (I) Why I oppose to Obama's impending attack of Syria              i) Hans Blix says the West has no mandate to go to war against Syria.        He says we get ahead of the due process. Obama or the US Congress        is not a court of law; much less an internationally recognized        court like the ICC.              ii) Obama does not have the information to allow him to "conclude"        that Assad did it. Even intelligence experts have said as much,        not just ANSWER's Richard Becker.               Anti-war activist Richard Becker from the ANSWER coalition:               US is not at all sure who was behind the alleged chemical weapons        attack in Syria, yet it wants to oust the Syrian government, so it        is `fixing the intelligence around the objective',               http://rt.com/op-edge/us-syria-chemical-attack-974/               US officials (as quoted by AP) in the intelligence community:               According to an Office of the Director for National Intelligence        report cited by the AP, the evidence against Syria "is thick with        caveats" and contains gaps that are getting in the way of putting              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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