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   From: acoustic@panix.com   
      
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   ca1houn   wrote:   
   >On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:15:26 PM UTC-7, TennisGuy wrote:   
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   >> Come on Ca1houn, lo yeeOn is spot on!   
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   >Yeah you have a point but damn we already knew this stuff and i really   
   >just hate when they highjack the group.  So i used a little smart ass   
   >tactics, I have no truth in the government but i must go forward   
      
   Sorry that you hate... or whatever.  But you see: men do not live by   
   tennis alone, or whatever - and you can get confirmations from those   
   who regularly post about movies, obama, and 9/11 in this group.   
      
   I realize that people want purity: We want "this newsgroup only for   
   discussing such and such a subject"...  But such is an ideal that is   
   unfulfilled in practice.  When I see such an ideal is in reality not   
   followed, then I think it is fair game for me to post what in my   
   opinion should concern everyone, such as war and peace and a   
   government which is out of control.  I try to be discrete; but if I   
   can draw attention in a small way to some of the problems we're facing   
   today, then maybe it is not a waste of my time to post or yours to   
   read (if you choose to do so).  In fact, under such a condition, it   
   seems that it is my civic duty to post!   
      
   Remember that famous anecdote about the mindset (of many Europeans   
   between the two world wars) to not speak out in opposition to the   
   crimes of the Nazis, thinking that it only concerned others, such as   
   the gays, the gypsies, and the communists...?  It is easy for us to   
   forget that we are living in a world far from being pure and ideal.   
   And we don't want to wait until it is too late for us to help (each   
   other, just to survive).   
      
   It is easy to assume that the government is always right.  And many   
   people, including pious Christians, bought into G W Bush's "just war"   
   bullshit for the Iraq War.  Clearly there was nothing "just" about the   
   Iraq War.  And people are slowly beginning to recognize that.  Yet, I   
   think that people are still slow to realize that our terrible economy   
   has a lot to do with our preoccupation with the so-called "national   
   security", which is nothing but a euphemism for hegemony abroad and   
   which has nothing to do with our personal safety.   
      
   And so raising people's consciousness is an important civic duty as   
   far as I am concerned.  And I am quite convinced that Obama's missile   
   strike plan against Syria did not take off and the fact that the NSA   
   scandal is now causing Cheney, Feinstein, and Alexander to be on the   
   defensive are all because "thank goodness for people", like Snoopy   
   liked to say - enough people are fed up now while it wasn't so ten   
   years ago, or even two years ago, i.e., people are beginning to   
   realize that something is very wrong about our government and that   
   they need to speak up now.   
      
   And about hijacking the group, I see no evidence to that.  I make the   
   subject line always crystal-clear as to what the post is about.   
   Nobody is forcing you to read it if you're not interested.  On the   
   other hand, had I posted a lot of messages about how Federer had   
   played, e.g., without actually the competence to do so, it would be   
   more justified for you to say I have hijacked the group because my   
   subject line would have been misleading, costing you time.  But I   
   never did that.   
      
   On the other hand, I do care about the survival of humanity and that   
   is important.  Given the way our government is run, I am not sure what   
   you mean by going forward, by posting about tennis alone.  Nothing is   
   going forward with the government we have today!   
      
   Lastly, I think RST is a fairly interesting newsgroup because I've   
   learned stuff from it, although I would have no interest in the "all   
   time" this or that, especially when it comes to movies.  But did I say   
   that so-and-so "hijacked" the group when he or she posted these   
   things?  I don't because who am I to know that such an issue isn't   
   important for the poster and those who follow up on the post?  I just   
   don't read them.   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
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