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   The comparison is specious.  Our rst is not a professor and the SCC   
   newsgroup has few followers.  Compare a professor with a professor:   
   that will be clearer.  The said Chinese professor was fired by his   
   peers - the academic senate of his institution.  Academic senate can   
   vote and do this kind of things in the US as well as in China and what   
   happened to this professor in China can happen in the US.   
      
   Instead of our rst, we should talk about Ward Churchill, who was a   
   full professor in a state univeresity in Colorado.  He was fired by   
   the school's Regents of the Board because America since G W Bush   
   became president has been highly intolerant of Americans criticizing   
   its foreign policy.  In fact, many 9/11 truthers academics have since   
   lost their jobs, more quietly than Churchill.   
      
   In the Chinese case, it wasn't the government who fired him, it was   
   his peers.  One could say that his peers might have been beholden to   
   the government; but the same can be said about all the American   
   academics who have lost their jobs since they spoke out against the   
   government on 9/11.   
      
   Governments, here or there or in Taiwan are pretty much the same.   
   They feel threatened when you are big.  Our rst is not big enough for   
   our government to make a fuss about.  Plus our rst has retired while   
   Churchill was still active - so he could be speaking to a bunch of   
   students about the evil of the neocons everyday if he chose to.   
      
   There might be people who are out here day and night waiting to   
   harass, to snip and snipe, and to try to silence those who would speak   
   about things the neocons don't like.  But nobody beyond SCC would hear   
   about it.  The chinese professor case you hear about is due to the MSM   
   and the State Department.  The Churchill case is news because he was a   
   full professor of Native American descent, a professor at a State   
   University, and he fought back hard, including long hard battles in   
   court to try to get his job back, had a podium in the academic   
   community, as well as the fact that we have an internet these days.   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
   In article <99d96c87-13ac-4366-a5dc-86dcd7cbef80@googlegroups.com>,   
     wrote:   
   >On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:04:32 PM UTC-8, rst9 wrote:   
   >> On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:06:53 AM UTC-8, bmo...@nyx.net wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > > Bullshit.  In today's world, there more people in the U.S. prison   
   >than any other country.  The U.S. has the biggest police force in the   
   >world, then there are the sheriffs, U.S. marshals, FBI, ATF, ICE, DEA,   
   >secret service agents,...   
   >>   
   >> > > The list goes on and on.  And you people called China a "police   
   >state".  The U.S. is more a "police state" than China.   
   >>   
   >> > > Now, why would be in jail in China?   
   >>   
   >> > For the same reason that a Chinese professor recently lost his job.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> You don't understand logic, and of course you have no logic.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > > Aren't you repeating lies and propaganda to defame China?   
   >>   
   >> > > Why don't you get that into your thick skull and realize China is   
   >just another country trying to do their best for their citizens?  And   
   >they are NOT to hurt anyone else in this world.   
   >>   
   >> > Unless it helps achieve their goals.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Man, you are ignorant beyond belief.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > > You're distorting the meaning of this discussion by cutting off   
   >the sentence.   
   >>   
   >> > > The discussion was:   
   >>   
   >> > > Taiwanese moving to Mainland China to live, and you said "better   
   >opportunities".  And I said "better opportunities" is "better than no   
   >opportunities" at all.   
   >>   
   >> > Which doesn't change the fact that China has a long way to go in   
   >terms of things that you cherish, like freedom to criticize the   
   >government.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> You are just following American propaganda line.   
   >   
   >Let's see. A Chinese professor says that China should follow its   
   >constitution and loses his job. YGM calls America a terrorist state and   
   >nothing happens to him.   
   >   
   >Anyone see a difference here?   
   >   
   >> > > Your attempt at distortion is disgusting and unwarranted and why   
   >we are having this discussion.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > LOL. One sign of a propagandist is that he accuses others of what he   
   >is doing, exactly as you are doing here.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Oh!!! yeah, one who refuses to see the light.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > > Just examine your own words, bmoore.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > Still more bluster. You live in a fantasy world. Thank goodness you   
   >are so ineffectual.   
   >   
      
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