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|    lo yeeOn to All    |
|    The Ukrainian "Euro-Maidan" is now but a    |
|    06 Jan 14 00:04:28    |
      XPost: soc.culture.china, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.latin-america       XPost: soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.iraq       XPost: soc.culture.pakistan       From: acoustic@panix.com              Ukraine's 2013 year-end crisis and its dissolution showed a few things:              1) Putin is strategically plenty smart. (He reasoned that the       billions that the Russians gifted their mostly slavic brothers were       good investment to protect themselves against US/NATO missile       encirclment.)              2) Western countries who are aching for an upheaval in Ukraine are       financially weak.              3) Yet these same foreign countries would rather see the Ukrainians go       through perhaps another "birth pain", just as Condoleezza Rice had       wanted the same for the poor Lebanese, when Israel's IDF madly bombed       the defenseless country in 2006.              And so just as insensitive as the former US Secretary of State, these       foreigners - mostly politicians and newspaper pundits - didn't realize       that there was nothing to gain for the majority of the population to       oppose a plan that would allow them to have bread and butter on the       table every evening, especially during these bitter cold days that       have enveloped much of northern Europe.              And these same "let-them-suffer" foreign freedom talkers had also       mistook the protesters for a majority of the population, despite the       clarity of the numbers. To wit, the population is 45 millions while       the size of protest never went over half, or even a quarter, of a       million.              To the Ukrainians, the Russian deal didn't require them to give up       something sacred like seeing KGB agents around street corners       eavedropping on their conversations. So, getting burdened down by the       IMF's stringent austerity program as the Greeks have been, instead of       gaining an economic freedom of their own, can't be such a good idea,       can it?              Unemployment, sickness, and poverty aren't exactly freedom, are they?              lo yeeOn              ----------------------------------              Why Did Ukraine's Eurolution Fail?              How the Christmas holidays and a cash infusion from Russia combined to       deflate the protest movement.              http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/05/why-did-ukraine       s-eurolution-fail.html              "Putin has agreed to purchase 15 billion dollars in Ukrainian debt and       slash the price of gas by a third. What do you think? Is this going to       inflame the protestors further?" he asked.              . . .              Zhenya, a hair salon owner, who had been a vocal supporter of the       protests, now distanced himself from the activists. "There's no       reason for them to be there any longer. It's like hanging around at a       party after all the girls have left," he said.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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