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   > Subject: A serial mistake: "Ukraine will be just for Ukrainians." [revised]   
   > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 06:28:14 +0000 (UTC)   
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   > [Revised and corrected version]   
   >   
   > Fatal mistakes are built up and made in series!   
   >   
   >   A young, innocent-enough looking young man in the group told BBC   
   >   News that he and many of his colleagues like the idea of "one   
   >   nation, one people, one country - a clean nation, not like Hitler's,   
   >   but something like it... and those who love Russia are free to leave   
   >   - Ukraine will be just for Ukrainians."  (See below for citation)   
   >   
   > The new Ukraine is in the midst of such a suicidal mission under Senya   
   > "Yats" Yatsenyuk who was famously quoted as calling his new job a   
   > "political suicide".   
   >   
   > Yats' regime is taking a series of steps for such a suicidal mission,   
   > it seems!   
   >   
   > First, it wilfully relied on Ukrainian society's hateful elements to   
   > drive out the majority party members of the parliament so that the   
   > western-backed "opposition" could install itself as de facto   
   > government of the country.  The backing included at least 5 billion US   
   > dollars, according to Victoria Nuland, the organizer/handler of the   
   > prolonged unrest.   
   >   
   > For the hateful elements referred above, please see the BBC News   
   > interview cited below.   
   >   
   > (Yatsenyuk's and his mentor Tymoshenko's party had only 101 out of a   
   > 450-member parliament at the last democratic election.  They couldn't   
   > have their way without thug power - that's true!  But there is a   
   > price.  The price is they were losing a large swathe of the population   
   > as they gain political power.  They didn't care because they held the   
   > Russian speakers in disdain.  So, of course, their authority over   
   > Crimea and other parts of Ukraine where Russian speakers hold sway is   
   > now in question.  The new government, i.e., the opposition before the   
   > coup, wants the land, but not the people who live there.  Now, that's   
   > the price they are paying.  Russia is forcing it to give it up.  I   
   > think Russia was leaving the door open for the new regime to seek a   
   > compromise as it began the preparation for the worst but saw none   
   > coming.  I don't blame Russia for its approach to Ukraine.)   
   >   
   > Second, a more hateful move on the part of the new regime: to make   
   > Russian speakers second class citizens, as the oligarchs flocked to   
   > embrace the west.  Yulia Tymoshenko: "We are building a European   
   > nation - we are doing this and nobody can stop us..."   
   >   
   >   Speaking in Dublin, Ukrainian former premier Yulia Tymoshenko made   
   >   an emotional appeal for greater European integration.   
   >   
   >   She said: "We are building a European nation - we are doing this and   
   >   nobody can stop us.  We owe this to those who died and to those who   
   >   are living."   
   >   
   > So, instead of embracing diversity (as President Obama so   
   > self-righteously did during the Sochi Winter Games), Ukraine's new   
   > regime went so far as to remove Russian from the elementary school   
   > curriculum.   
   >   
   > Do these west-embracing politicians in Kiev think that Krushchev   
   > gifted Crimea to Ukraine so that the Russian population would be spit   
   > on and driven out 60 years later?   
   >   
   > Do they think that Anton Chekhov and Sergei Prokofiev would have   
   > preferred to rest their souls in Vienna rather than in Russia?   
   >   
   > Was Alexander Nevsky (recently mentioned as one of the top three most   
   > revered Russian leaders in history according to some poll) a Ukrainian   
   > so that the Ukraine-born composer Prokofiev wrote an Oratorio named   
   > after him and every Russian bound tourist knows about the Nevsky   
   > Prospect in Petersburg to visist?   
   >   
   > Did Chekhov ever write a play or a short story identifying Ukraine as   
   > a distinct, anti-Russian cultural entity?  Chekhov is always known as   
   > a Russian, despite the places in Ukraine that have provided him with   
   > the backdrops of his creations.   
   >   
   > Of course, the latest move in Kiev strengthens the belief of Ukraine's   
   > Russian speakers that the central government is against them.  So, the   
   > cause of the instability in Ukraine originates in Kiev, rather than   
   > Moscow.   
   >   
   > Third, continuing to unleash its thug power - the new regime is   
   > calling for the mobilization of 60,000 volunteers with "military   
   > experience" to form a self-defense force in the East of Ukraine where   
   > most people speak Russia, where the political strength of the de jure   
   > president Yanuskovych lies, and where that of the de facto government   
   > in Kiev is very questionable.   
   >   
   > Now, let's begin by recalling that the new regime in Kiev gave the   
   > neo-fascist Svoboda (Freedom) party several important cabinet posts,   
   > including that of the interior ministry and of the defense ministry,   
   > in addition to the post of deputy prime-minister.  That means that   
   > thugs will staff the police forces across Ukraine, not just Kiev.  And   
   > they will wear official uniforms, get paid, and receive lethal weapons   
   > from the government.   
   >   
   > Let's also recall a BBC News interview from a while ago, concerning   
   > extremism in the new Ukraine.   
   >   
   > The video I have posted before began by showing a column of a dozen of   
   > armed men patrolling Kiev - they were the loudest, most violent, and   
   > most effective forces to fight the riot police, according to BBC News.   
   >   
      
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