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   lo yeeOn to Jesus fucks St. Mary nickname has b   
   Re: Nobody is stopping Condoleezza Rice    
   20 May 14 13:25:07   
   
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   From: acoustic@panix.com   
      
   In article <860c8ca5-36f9-4811-b4c7-2c12130c4da2@googlegroups.com>,   
   Jesus fucks St. Mary nickname has been hijacked  wrote:   
   >why  students  did  not  protest  against   
   > Bush  's   speaking   and  lecturing    at   Havard .?   
      
   Was it a commencement speaking engagement?  I seriously doubt it.  In   
   that case, it probably did not involve student input and his visit was   
   probably limited to, say, a particular department or institution   
   within the university, rather than as a university-wide event, such as   
   the commencement.  And the event was probably deliberately not   
   well-advertised ahead of time to avoid public protest, etc.   
      
   But the point of my post concerned mainly the question of whether   
   Robert Zoellick was as innocent as newspaper commentator Allan   
   C. Brownfeld had claimed or as bad as those who objected to his   
   invitation to Swarthmore's 2013 commencement had charged.  To that   
   end, I cited the Wikipedia as proof that he was one of the original   
   signatories of the infamous "Project for the New American Century" or   
   PNAC for short.  The wikipedia article tells of the PNAC group's open   
   advocacy for war against Iraq, at a date as early as 1998 during the   
   Clinton presidency - long before 9/11.   
      
   In retrospect, we can easily see that the neocons were looking around   
   for a spokesman/advocate for their ambitious PNAC.  And they   
   conveniently found George W.   
      
   And we can see that while Bush was assembling a team that would focus   
   on the project, he campaigned as if he would be an inward-looking   
   president, focusing on domestic issues for the country.   
      
   As former anti-terrorism czar Richard Clarke under both Clinton and   
   Bush and Bush's own Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill have revealed,   
   Bush and his inner circle was busy preparing for a war against Iraq as   
   soon as he entered the White House.   
      
   That PNAC letter dated 1998 and subsequent events that led up to the   
   invasion of Iraq was kind of a "chronicle of a nation's death foretold"   
   paraphrasing the celebrated Gabriel Garcia Marquez.   
      
   Robert Zoelleck was also a long time associate with Condoleezza Rice as   
   evidenced by their collaboration in a book that accounted on paper for   
   Rice's meteoric promotion from a tenure-tracked assistant professor   
   rank to the rank of full professor as well as provostship.   
      
   According to Brownfeld:   
      
     In the case of Swarthmore, Robert Zoellick, an alumnus and former   
     president of the World Bank, accepted and then turned down an   
     invitation after students objected to his support of the Iraq war   
     and his record at the World Bank.   
      
     Zoellick, an official in George W. Bush's administration, withdrew   
     after students started a campaign on Facebook calling him "an   
     architect of the Iraq war and a 'war criminal'".  "In fact, while   
     Zoellick did support the war, he had no role in planning it. He was   
     Bush's U.S. trade representative and later worked to resolve the   
     conflict in Darfur as a State Department official.   
      
   My rebuttal to Allan C. Brownfeld's assertion that Zoellick "had no   
   role in planning the Iraq war":   
      
     In a January 2000 Foreign Affairs essay entitled "Campaign 2000: A   
     Republican Foreign Policy," he was one of the first of those now   
     associated with Bush's foreign policy to invoke the notion of   
     "evil," writing: "[T]here is still evil in the world - people who   
     hate America and the ideas for which it stands. Today, we face   
     enemies who are hard at work to develop nuclear, biological, and   
     chemical weapons, along with the missiles to deliver them. The   
     United States must remain vigilant and have the strength to defeat   
     its enemies. People driven by enmity or by a need to dominate will   
     not respond to reason or goodwill. They will manipulate civilized   
     rules for uncivilized ends."[39] The same essay praises the   
     "idealism" of Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.[citation   
     needed] Two years earlier, Zoellick was one of the signatories (who   
     also included Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle,   
     Elliott Abrams, Zalmay Khalilzad, John R. Bolton, Richard Armitage,   
     and Bill Kristol) of a January 26, 1998 letter to President Bill   
     Clinton drafted by the Project for the New American Century calling   
     for "removing Saddam [Hussein]'s regime from power."[13] from the   
     wikipedia   
      
   I also pointed out:   
      
     Zoelleck and Rice were co-authors for a book from way back before   
     their careers in George W. Bush' blood-soaked years in the White House.   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
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