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   From: ascii@dprk.kp   
      
   18.7.2014 1:14, *skriptis kirjoitti:   
   >> "Freedom fighters" (you damn idiot) do not have planes...   
   > Nor did I say they had them, moron.   
   >   
      
   Look, dimwit, above is relevant for the claim that followed. I repeat:   
      
   "No surface-to-air systems are involved in the military operation   
   against separatists in the east, and the plane was out of reach of other   
   Ukrainian air defence forces"   
      
   Just ask yourself who have been shooting down planes in Ukraine. There's   
   your answer to this "puzzle".   
      
   > And I most certainly would consider that bastards who burnt tens of people   
   > alive in Odessa,   
      
   They were not government forces.   
      
   > If so, perfectly legit as per international law. Couple of person IN Russia   
   > were killed in the last days from the rockets coming from Ukraine...   
      
   Yeah, must have been Ukraine who started all this...   
      
   Do you still believe that "little green men" in Crimea were just self   
   defence forces as Putin told us?   
      
   Well they were not, they were Russian special forces, confirmed by Putin   
   himself after the fact. Same with Eastern Ukraine.   
      
   I can see how someone in Russia would be convinced by the propaganda -   
   but a guy like you living in the West - there's no excuse for such   
   stupidity. Get a grip.   
      
   And when it comes to demonizing Russia in eyes of Western world - Putin   
   doesn't need my help for that, he's doing it fine by himself.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)