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   "Results" for whom? Joshua Wong was quot   
   28 Nov 14 10:54:20   
   
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   Apart from some sensational charges against the police, Joshua Wong   
   reportedly "defiantly told" other protesters "to persevere".   
      
     "What we're fighting for are results," Wong said, "not retreat."   
      
   My question is "results" for whom?  It sounds like Wong is calling his   
   troopers to help him do someone else's bidding.  It sounds like   
   someone influential has been whispering into his ears, saying: "Now,   
   Joshua, whatever you do, you need results... you need to keep fighting   
   if you want results!"   
      
   (It is easy to see that the likes of Wong are not concerned about the   
   security of 1.2 billion Chinese people when they insist on the right   
   to field a candidate for the Chief Executive's office who is hostile   
   to China!  So China's interpretation of the basic law regarding HK's   
   extent of self-governance is more than reasonable when "one-country   
   two-systems" means the security of the country must come before the   
   will of the voting "majority" of a local system.)   
      
   Under the circumstance, does Joshua think that the three-month-old   
   strike he's been in has to end in Beijing kowtowing to emperor Wong?   
      
   This little Bolshevik needs to know that even some of the greatest   
   revolutionaries in history such as Mao had to retreat!  Mao and his   
   comrades spent more than a year running for their lives.  And   
   ultimately their now world-famous Long March turned their fortune   
   around!   
      
     The Communists, under the eventual command of Mao Zedong and Zhou   
     Enlai, escaped in a circling retreat to the west and north, which   
     reportedly traversed over 9,000 kilometers (6,000 miles) over 370   
     days. The route passed through some of the most difficult terrain   
     of western China by traveling west, then north, to Shaanxi.   
      
     The Long March began Mao Zedong's ascent to power, whose leadership   
     during the retreat gained him the support of the members of the   
     party.  The bitter struggles of the Long March, which was completed   
     by only about one-tenth of the force that left Jiangxi, would come   
     to represent a significant episode in the history of the CPC. (wiki)   
      
   The revolution was a long suffering, with huge sacrifice!   
      
   When over 83% Hk'ers want them to head home, Joshua said defiantly he   
   just wasn't ready to quit yet.  And he blamed those who broke into the   
   Legislative Council building for hurting the caus.  And yet, Joshua   
   and his fellow student leaders are now said to be plotting to call on   
   the protesters to take over government buildings, after they have been   
   evicted from the streets.  If true, it would clearly be an escalation   
   of the ongoing conflict - an escalation substantially worse than just   
   breaking into the Legislative Council building.   
      
   And as Joshua is calling his troopers to "persevere", he will actually   
   be "leading from behind" since there is a stay-away court order that   
   will keep him from potential battlegrounds.  So, he will be physically   
   safe, while his troopers might face grave bodily harm.   
      
   And whatever Joshua is fighting for, it is for the benefit of atmost a   
   small minority.  But I suspect that he is fighting not even for a   
   small minority of Hk'ers.  Rather, he is fighting for a foreign power.   
   In other words, Joshua Wong is no revolutionary.  I think he is a   
   sellout.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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