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   In article ,   
   Jonathan  wrote:   
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   >"lo yeeOn"  wrote in message   
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   >> In article ,   
   >> Jonathan  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>And if Bush had denied any direct involvement in Iraq?   
   >>>That just a few 'vacationing' American troops were there   
   >>>helping out local forces? And all those American weapons   
   >>>were just conveniently found lying about?   
   >>>   
   >>>What would the world say if America had staged a   
   >>>'stealth' invasion of Iraq?   
   >>   
   >> The world has already spoken.  The U.S. government pulled a stealth in   
   >> the Iraq War.  It lied to the world about an urgent need to invade   
   >> Iraq and went on to bomb the country with the force of "shock n awe".   
   >> If that wasn't stealth (the lying in order to get the boom-boom going,   
   >> that is), what is?   
   >   
   >Well, Saddam destroyed all his WMD before we invaded, but like   
   >an  i d i o t  didn't think it a good idea to TELL anyone!   
   >   
   >But the list of crimes deserving of removal are too long to detail   
   >For instance systematically gassing some 500 Kurdish towns   
   >and villages. GASSING ALL OF THEM he could find, just as   
   >Hitler gassed every last jew he could find.   
   >   
   >But with E Ukraine, Putin's reasons are what again?   
      
   Ok, 1) when someone insists on being a Don Quixote and making false   
   claims, then it is too obvious to require me to respond.   
      
     Jonathan:   
       >Well, Saddam destroyed all his WMD before we invaded, but like   
       >an i d i o t didn't think it a good idea to TELL anyone!   
      
   Now 2), I just thought may be there was something genuine about you   
   and so I went and googled your claim that Saddam gassed "some 500   
   Kurdish towns and villages".  Well it is clearly an outlandishly false   
   claim.  First, nobody in Iraq brought that up at Saddam's show trial   
   that led to his hanging.  Second, the threat to "some 500 Kurdish   
   towns..." was alleged by Talabani on his own fellow Kurds - the PPK   
   fighters.  The Iraqis themselves didn't know better than you?   
      
   Finally, 3), as I said it before (and it made sense) Kiev chose the   
   path of war on its own people while those in east Ukraine wanted their   
   self-determination.  When Kiev was about to triumph, Putin put his   
   foot down and said "Nyet! You ain't gonna kill no more of our Russian   
   speaking brothers and sisters!"  After all, Putin is the president of   
   Russia and his job is to protect the interestes of his people or they   
   would rise up against him.  So, Putin stopped Avakov's sci-fi army   
   soldiers in their tracks and the Russians speakers erupted in "YRA!!!"   
   Ummmkay!   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
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