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   jdeluise to lo yeeOn   
   Re: Uncle Sam is afraid of what a nun mi   
   08 May 15 18:20:13   
   
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   From: jdeluise@gmail.com   
      
   acoustic@panix.com (lo yeeOn) writes:   
      
   >   
   > Now, sir, when it comes to the issue of killing "indiscriminately",   
   > how should we compare its extent (using IEDs) with that of Hiroshima   
   > and Nagasaki (using the world's only two atom bombs that existed at   
   > the time) or with the hundreds of thousands of excess deaths in Iraq,   
   > using the world's most advanced missiles and missile-delivery systems   
   > today, and white phosphor, and the biggest bombs that could be carried   
   > over thousands of miles and dropped from a stealth plane in the death   
   > of night?   
   >   
   > You say the Tsarnaev brothers' act did not have "any sort of message   
   > or purpose..."!  What sort of message or purpose was the nuking of   
   > Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the rape of Iraq?   
      
   I don't think this argument holds water.  The nuking of Japan, for   
   instance, *was* intended to send a message and indeed did send a   
   message.  Despite the fact the fire bombings were probably just as   
   horrific and deadly, it was the message that the US could drop bombs at   
   will that would level entire cities that helped end the war.   
   Additionally, there was no mystery who dropped the bombs, and the   
   message it sent was *very clear*.   
      
   Contrast that to the Tsarnaev brothers, who cowardly dropped off a   
   backpack bomb, retreated from the area to detonate it and then proceeded   
   to head home and **return to their normal lives**!  If they were so   
   angry and sick of the US war machine, why did they not even make an   
   anonymous claim of responsibility?  Where was the message to go along   
   with the act?  The answer was THERE WASN'T ONE.   
      
   >   
   > Of course, all of these terrorist acts, whether carried out by two   
   > brothers or by state-sponsored machineries, have purposes and carry   
   > messages.   
      
   Again, no message was made until after they had been discovered.   
      
   >   
   > If the Tsarnaev brothers' act were without purpose, the trial would   
   > have declared that they were deranged, I am sure!   
      
   Why are you so sure of that?  It's far more advantageous for the US to   
   characterize them as terrorists instead of the callous sociopaths they   
   really were.   
      
   >   
   > The truth is, without so many words, the brothers were expressing   
   > their repugnance of the so-called "War on Terror" waged against   
   > innocent people around the world, many of them have been Muslims,   
   > people whom the brothers naturally felt dear to.   
      
   They didn't express anything, they retreated to their normal lives after   
   the bombings, their actions had absolutely NO EFFECT on US policy, none!   
   They killed and maimed merely for the pleasure of doing so.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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