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   From: acoustic@panix.com   
      
   Jeb Bush presented himself to be just the kind of a politician who is   
   all talk now but will walk you down the path of perdition later, just   
   like his brother George W. did to the country.   
      
   Jeb said: "My belief is that if we create the right climate, America   
   is going to rise up and lead the world for the next generation of   
   time, . . ."   
      
   The message is so broad and general that one can't possibly find flaw   
   in it.  But Jeb won't be the one to create that right climate because   
   he has just said this very summer that he would put American spotters   
   on Iraqi ground to help with American-led air strikes (against IS or   
   whoever that happens to be around that rubs Jeb the wrong way) and Jeb   
   made clear to us that while George W.'s Iraq war was not perfect, it   
   was a good deal because it got rid of Saddam.  Let's see why such   
   thinking for the next U.S. president would inhibit the creation of a   
   right climate for America to rise up in, much less lead the world.   
      
   It does not matter whose side you're on.  For as long as resentment   
   toward the United States continues, there will be people who will be   
   on the other side, fighting us or our surrogates/puppets.  We should   
   recognize that the war against IS is a controversy in the very sense   
   of the word because we argue that we have the "duty"/"responsibility"   
   to defeat/destroy IS warriors because they are the bad guys but IS   
   supporters argue strongly that theirs is the only way to get back the   
   life-style they once enjoyed before George W. rudely invaded and then   
   destroyed Iraq under false pretenses.  In other words, whenever there   
   is a bone of contention, there exists a controversy.  When we defeated   
   Japan, Nazi Germany and their fascist cohorts, we made sure that the   
   vanquished recognized their guilt.  Controversy did not arise at the   
   end of WWII because the conditions for controversy did not or were not   
   allowed to exist.   
      
   What happened to George W.'s Iraq war?  He was in no position to shame   
   the Iraqis to feel guilty about his war.  Clearly there are plenty of   
   grudges and no American president is going to be able to "create the   
   right climate" such that there won't be hostile activities to bring   
   down our stooges in that country.  There are plenty of Arabs and   
   Muslims from the Middle East and even from Europe who are on the other   
   side of the controversy.  So, America cannot have a chance to become   
   great again unless we apologize as Japan and Germany apologized for   
   their wicked deeds in a prior war.  But if we cannot have a president   
   who is able to apologize to the Iraqi people for the destruction the   
   Iraq war caused, at least we should not choose as president one who,   
   12 years after the war started under false pretenses, still thinks of   
   the sinister act as a good deal and is in fact a brother of the war   
   criminal, the one who was responsible for bringing on the untold   
   suffering to the Iraqi people and getting away with it.   
      
   A resolute no for "Jeb Bush for president".   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
   --------   
      
   http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/03/j   
   b-bush-went-hard-after-trump-in-new-hampshire-then-he-took-some-   
   eat-on-immigration/   
      
   "My belief is that if we create the right climate, America is going to   
   rise up and lead the world for the next generation of time," said   
   Bush. "Donald Trump's view is that the end is near."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)