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   lo yeeOn to wakalukong@yahoo.com.sg   
   George W Bush and Tony Blair's invasion    
   15 Nov 15 02:51:01   
   
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   From: acoustic@panix.com   
      
   In article <1b3310da-698e-4302-9da8-203324c0081e@googlegroups.com>,   
     wrote:   
   >The people in the Middle East give all sorts of reasons for fighting,   
   >but they align themselves into Shiite and Sunni factions -- never mind   
   >the reasons they profess.  Those idiots are still fighting over an   
   >ancient issue.   
   >   
   >Wakalukong   
      
   Dear Mr. Wakalukong,   
      
   There is a history of animosity between the Shiites and the Sunnis -   
   and the European colonialists were certainly cunningly exploiting this   
   fact to divide them and conquer their land.  However, religious   
   factions need not have to fight against one another.  And they were   
   certainly not fighting each other under the Baathist rule for decades   
   - allowing Iraq to become a more civilized country than say Saudi   
   Arabia or Kuwait in the years prior to the new millennium.   
      
   Nor did the Shiites nor the Sunnies of Iraq came to the West and   
   attacked our cities.   
      
   Nor did Muslims in Europe come together and attack European cities   
   like they do today.   
      
   But once George W Bush decided to attack Iraq under false pretenses,   
   he and his people decided to play up the sectarian animosity between   
   the Sunnis and the Shiites and between the Sunnis and the ethnic   
   minority Kurds.  They were openly oppressing the Sunnis because of   
   many of them were Baathists.  Under this new stimulus, no wonder why   
   violence erupted between the groups.  The imperialists want to exploit   
   sectarian conflict to cut down the stronger oppositions to foreign   
   rule.  And that's why there is so much sectarian violence after our   
   invasion of Iraq.  While Shiites and Sunnies used to shop and dine at   
   the same Baghdad bazaar for years and years before our invasion, they   
   can't live with each other after it.  Why?   
      
   You can say we make them hate each other for our benefit!   
      
   And to get the full benefit of sectarian or ethnic tension, we have   
   gone even further, in the name of security and stability.  We singled   
   out the Sunnis as the bad guys and tried to bomb them out of   
   existence.  What has ever happened to Fallujah?  It has become the new   
   millennium's Guernica.  You know about Guernica?  It was a Spanish   
   city that Francisco Franco destroyed with a little help from his   
   friend Adolf Hitler abour 3 quarters of a century ago during WWII!   
      
   Of course, the Sunnis can see who have been being targeted and who   
   have been the stooges.  And under such a violently distorted reality,   
   it is easy to see why sectarian violence has multiplied in the Middle   
   East in recent years.   
      
   As I have pointed out, Tony Blair, chief co-conspirator of George W   
   Bush's criminal attack of Iraq, has recently admitted that "elements   
   of truth" exist between the invasion and occupation of Iraq and the   
   rise of IS.   
      
   Now, let's also be clear that sectarian violence is not what has   
   shocked the French.  It is what IS and its sympathesizers who have   
   caused the Parisian grief.   
      
   It is IS - not sectarian violence - that is afflicting European cities   
   right now.   
      
   And it is clear that despite the fact that sectarian tension is   
   centuries-old in the Middle East, it has not been a source of trouble   
   for Europe or other parts of the world.   
      
   In fact, if there were, we would probably have about it from some   
   music Ludwig van Beethoven wrote, don't you think?  Beethoven wrote   
   music to a play about the Ruins of Athen.  Of course, it had to do   
   with Turkey - the nation that invaded Europe.  But the ruins of Athen   
   wasn't caused by sectarian violence.   
      
   By the way, most of what afflicted Europe for a long time was its own   
   sectarian violence - the Catholics fighting the Protestants and so on.   
      
   So, it doesn't matter what the Sunnies and the Shiites say about each   
   other, the troubles afflicting Europe is ISIS, not sectarian violence.   
      
   And also remember that the mother of ISIS is George W Bush's invasion   
   of Iraq and his "War on Terrorism".  Neither Iraqi Shiites nor their   
   Sunni counterpart came to the West and attacked our cities.  So   
   regardless of their sectarian issue, that is not what is shocking the   
   Parisians and that is not what the West is worried about.   
      
   Francois Hollande said it was an act of war.  Well, he should have   
   known.  His bombing raids over North Africa and recently in Syria were   
   acts of war to the locals too.  How would he characterize it otherwise?   
      
   Holland can stick his tiny fist into the hornet's nest and he should   
   also known what to expect!   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
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