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   Trump has called President Obama and Hillary Clinton the "founder" and   
   "co-founder" of ISIS.  It's an essential truth provided that you're   
   intelligent enough and intellectually honest enough to parse Trump's   
   pronouncements.   
      
   The nitpickers might say that Trump is wrong because George W Bush and   
   his British buddy Tony Blair were the real founder and co-founder of   
   ISIS.  Or worse: They might say: "why should we have to parse his   
   text?  Why can't he give it to us straight?"   
      
   But give the guy a break!   
      
   He has made it clear during the primary season that George W Bush was   
   the father of ISIS.   
      
   Now, he's been pummeled from the Republican establishment as well as   
   its evil Demo counterpart for just about anything he's said concerning   
   the wars (or their "heros").   
      
   While the Republican Establishment believed (wrongly) that they had an   
   "Establishment Lane" open to race on, Trump now has at most a bike   
   lane to get through to the finish line in November.  So, of course, he   
   can no longer invoke anything remotely connecting to the Republican   
   party (or its past) to hammer on in order to win the election.   
      
   It's been a bi-partisan disaster for the past 16 years and Trump has   
   made it clear - for a long time already.   
      
   And Trump's distaste for military intervention is also well-known and   
   well-documented.   
      
   So if you're not happy with Obama being the founder of ISIS, at least   
   we can settle on the notion that Obama (and Hillary Clinton) being the   
   MVPs of foreign intervention, aka today's war against ISIS.  And if   
   you didn't already know, Trump also provided that title for the two of   
   them.   
      
   MVP or Most Valuable Player is a term understood by every American.   
      
   Certainly, George W Bush, Condoleeza Rice, Dick Cheney were MVPs for   
   the neocons' Project for the New American Century (PNAC).  And   
   certainly the PNAC and the wars that go with it are the parents (or   
   founders) of ISIS.   
      
   And certainly, actors/players come and go.   
      
   The original players have been replaced by Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe   
   Biden, and other current players.  So, they are naturally the latest   
   MVPs who have been mugging with ISIS.   
      
   Trump lets you take your pick and you see his meaning.  Trump is the   
   latest symbolist in the modern American political theater of the   
   absurd.   
      
   Symbols are actually quite appropriate vocabulary because people don't   
   have all day and those who want to can take the words apart, parse the   
   text, and draw lines between the dots.   
      
   What Trump really wants you to think about is the performance of the   
   company these American ISIS MVPs have run for the past how many years   
   --- 8 or 16 --- take you pick.   
      
   Consider this, Obama is presiding over the longest war in American   
   history.   
      
   And it's been nearly 8 years, just under his leadership.  But what did   
   he do?  He didn't have a clue.  Afghanistan is going from bad to worse   
   and, according to Fiscal Times, we could save 70 billions a year in   
   addition to being able to avoid going "from bad to worse".   
      
   A lot of those in the war party, which is a bi-partisan bunch, would   
   sneer at the 70 billions.   
      
   But, Hillary has proposed a "$275 billion infrastructure spending   
   plan" to create jobs.   
      
   If you can multiply, you know that in just one Obama term, he could've   
   saved $280 billion, an amount more than she has proposed to revitalize   
   the economy, had her buddy ended the Afghan war as he promised near   
   the end of his first term.  (And you know the need for infrastructure   
   spending arose from the Afghan war and other modern endless American   
   wars.)   
      
   In other words, 70 billions a year on an endless war is a lot of money   
   that could start re-vitalizing the American economy and providing   
   national health care to all US citizens.   
      
   But because either he has no clue or he is lying, Obama just keeps   
   occupying Bagram --- the sprawling military base - using the pretext   
   of fighting ISIS and al Qaeda.  The more the Afghan quagmire lingers,   
   the less clear it is whether we are in Afghanistan for Bagram or in   
   Bagram for Afghanistan.   
      
   And if you listen to the Afghans, ISIS and Taliban are there in their   
   country because they are fighting a patriotic war to expel foreigners   
   from their soil.  So, do these Washington warmongers have any sense of   
   reciprocity when they send our soldiers out to kill and be killed in   
   the name of defending America?   
      
   Can't these Washington warmongers see that they are minting Afghan   
   analogues (by the thousands, if not tens of thousands) of the Captain   
   Khan whose parents they paraded at the Democratic party convention?   
      
   If bin Laden was responsible for the 9/11 attacks - which is far from   
   being certain - he has been long dead.  Obama was seen killing him by   
   remote control, along with his other MVPs VP Biden and SoS Hillary   
   Clinton.  These Democrats were all seen watching the murder reality   
   show in broad daylight.   
      
   How many more Afghans have to die before we quit their country and   
   leave them in peace?   
      
   Distinguished American scholars including the U. of Chicago's John   
   Mearsheimer have pointed out that ISIS is an ideology that cannot be   
   defeated by killing people.  But the warmongers just pretend that   
   these scholars had no brains while they knew what to do!   
      
   But they don't.  All they do is pretend that they know.   
      
   They have no clue.   
      
   And the Taliban and ISIS in Afghanistan are joining forces to liberate   
   their country from our occupation, so what is the point of spending so   
   many tens of billions each year, year after year, and spilling so much   
   innocent blood from all sides to keep Afghanistan occupied?   
      
   Of course, Obama and Hillary are responsible.  And Hillary has also   
   the distinction of being the mother of destruction of Libya and the   
   mother of the worst refuge crisis for Europe.   
      
   Hillary, from hacked diplomatic cables obtained and released by   
   Wikileaks, is indisputably responsible for millions of homeless in   
   Syria as well as the deaths of hundreds of thousands of their   
   relatives and fellow countrymen.   
      
   Without Hillary's wilful intervention, Syria and Libya would still be   
   self-reliant and peaceful today and Europe would certainly be a lot   
   better off.   
      
   It's good that Trump keeps making the voters think about the ISIS mess   
   the relevant players/actors have created in the last 16 years.  From   
   this point of view, no reasonable voters would want to have Hillary as   
   president so that we the people would have to bear the burden of her   
   wars - some of them monsters of her own creation - any further.   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
   Afghanistan Is Going From Bad to Worse   
      
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